Surely the Navy--and all the services--expect better of their commanding officers than this crap--that's the real issue I see. Not that it was sooooo terribly offensive (although in fairness, that video is an edited version--take that for what its worth; I haven't seen the full thing), but the fact that a frigging full bird would be assinine enough, and STUPID enough, to do something like that. This kind of behavior wouldn't even fly with the lowest of officers, let alone a Naval captain. It's the kind of thing I'd expect from an 18 year old private. The dude's an idiot, and deserves what he gets imho.

I mean if you're going to be vulgar and stupid whatever, but for god's sake don't do it if you're an 0-6, and REALLY don't do it *in front of a fucking camera, multiple times!* Good grief!

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Maybe its a Ship thing then Hawk, because I totally Disagree. I see at as a CO who is down to Earth, trying to raise his Crew's Morale, and isn't a PC Toolbag.

But he damn well should have been smart enough to know how that LOOKS, and that if even one person gets offended--or even doesn't like him--and got ahold of those videos, that the PC obsessed public would be calling for his command, ad possibly his career, before he knew what was happening. His crime is one of being an idiot and having absolutely wretched judgment more than anything else.

Now, speaking as a future officer myself, I can tell you that I personally find his antics offensive in their juvenile nature, and think that he should be setting a far, far better example than what is shown in that video. Not that officers are untouchable, high and mighty, or anything of the sort...but their job--their JOB--is to be in command, and maintain authority. Something like this completely and utterly undermines that, or at least it seems to to me. I don't know the Navy, and I especially don't know that ship and her crew so I won't actually pass judgment here, but I can tell you it goes against every bit of what I've spent four years learning about being an officer. I find it offensive on that level more than any other.

(And, to be fair, there have been plenty of junior officers who get themselves in hot water because they work harder at being "one of the guys" than they do at *doing their damn job.* What makes this unusual is the guy's rank...you'd think after so many years, he'd know better.)