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Syd Lexia
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So let me get this straight... it's a horror movie ABOUT Christmas that OPENS on Christmas? Fucking Brilliant. It should have opened December 1st.
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DarkMaze
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Apparently certain Christians are pitching a hissy fit.
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Christian Groups Fume Over Christmas Horror Film
Christian groups have slammed the remake of cult 1974 movie Black Christmas, because they find the horror movie "offensive." The Glen Morgan-directed film stars Oliver Hudson, Katie Cassidy, Lacey Chabert and Michelle Trachtenberg and centers on a group of US college students who battle a slasher over the Christmas holidays. The movie will be released on Christmas Day in US cinemas, much to the horror of Christian groups. Mathew Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel, says, "To have a movie that emphasizes murder and mayhem at Christmas, a time of celebration and joy around the world seems to be ill founded." Jennifer Giroux, co-founder of Operation Just Say Merry Christmas, adds, "The use of religious music 'Silent Night' and the nativity set on the front porch in one scene are insensitive to Christians. It's not enough to ignore and omit Christmas, but now it has to be offended, insulted and desecrated. Our most sacred holiday, actually a holy day, is being assaulted." |
They can bite me.
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Syd Lexia
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I definitely want to see the movie, especially if Michelle Trachtenberg and Lacey Chabert are in it, and I really don't think it's in bad taste. I just think it's dumb to have a seasonal movie open on the last day of the season. Realistically, who's going to go see that on Christmas?
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Lady_Satine
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Obviously those people have never heard of Santa's Slay.
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Cattivo
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Those people need to relax. I'm a Catholic, and I plan on seeing that movie. (Not on Christmas day of course, but eventually). And I thought I had a stick up my ass....
lordsathien wrote: |
Obviously those people have never heard of Santa's Slay. |
I rented that a few months ago. Awesome movie. Nothing beats seeing Fran Drescher's hair being burnt off. Then again, I was presupposed to liking that movie, considering I frickin' love the Futurama episodes with the evil Robot Santa....
And his friend Jesus!
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Lady_Satine
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Cattivo wrote: |
And his friend Jesus! |
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Cattivo
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Did my pic get blocked because it was hotlinked or something?
Damnit, I should have just used photobucket.
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Tebor
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I saw "Wolf Creek" last Christmas and it ruined my holiday. The hell I'm going to watch another horror film for Christmas.
Ugh... Wolf Reek...
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Char Aznable
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I hate bible-beating catholics. They give a bad name to us regular catholics.
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FNJ
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arent tehse teh sae guys that complianed that christmas is takign away form the true idea of jesus or something?
also, is santa's slay the movie with goldberg as satan, who lost a bet and became santa clause?
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Syd Lexia
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Char Aznable wrote: |
I hate bible-beating catholics. They give a bad name to us regular catholics. |
I didn't mind the Catholic protests against the DaVinci Code, as the DaVanci Code sucked. But the Church also protested The Life Of Brian and Dogma which were both all in good fun.
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JEW wrote: |
arent tehse teh sae guys that complianed that christmas is takign away form the true idea of jesus or something? |
I haven't heard much about Christmas being too commercial lately, so I would assume these are the same people fighting saying "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" and what not. Normally I would say they're being idiotic about that too, but recently in Chicago, they barred previews of the "Nativity Story" movie from being shown at a Christmas festival. So, I'll just attribute it to the government being stupid as usual instead.
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also, is santa's slay the movie with goldberg as satan, who lost a bet and became santa clause? |
Yep. I hate Goldberg, but I love that movie in spite of it. He actually does a good job. I think his poor acting ability is covered up by the overly deep voice he employs throughout the entire film.
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Syd Lexia wrote: |
But the Church also protested The Life Of Brian and Dogma which were both all in good fun. |
I still haven't seen the Life of Brian, but I loved Dogma and its philosophical arguments - except for Morissette playing God and that damn feces demon. That just seemed too corny and ridiculous for me.
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People in general are too fucking uptight about everything these days.
Christmas-themed example: I read in the newspaper today that a bus driver was told he couldn't wear a Santa hat because he bore a slight resemblance to the image of Santa Claus and some wanker kid was weirded out because he didn't believe in Santa or some horse shit excuse like that.
Thankfully, the bus driver was soon after allowed to start wearing his Santa hat again. But the moral here is that people really are too anal and uptight about pretty much everything. I mean, what the fuck? It's not like he had a fucking gun on him or something. It's a hat for crying out loud.
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Lady_Satine
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A friend of mine was in Starbucks and everywhere the decorations said "Happy Yuletide." Curious, he asks one of the employees why they put those kind of decorations up and the guy just shrugged his shoulders.
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IMDb News wrote: |
[b]Our most sacred holiday, actually a holy day, is being assaulted." |
Acually, it is not a holy day, as they are refering to the birth of Christ, and science clearly shows he could not be born on December 25th. History convincingly shows that Dec. 25 was popularized as the date for Christmas, not because Christ was born on that day, but because it was already popular in pagan religious celebrations as the birthday of the sun. Lacking any scriptural pointers to Jesus's birthday, early Christian teachers suggested dates all over the calendar. Clement . . . picked November 18. Hippolytus . . . figured Christ must have been born on a Wednesday . . . An anonymous document(,) believed to have been written in North Africa around A.D. 243, placed Jesus's birth on March 28" (Joseph L. Sheler, U.S. News & World Report, "In Search of Christmas," Dec. 23, 1996, p. 5  .
A careful analysis of Scripture, however, clearly indicates that Dec. 25 is an unlikely date for Christ's birth. Here are two primary reasons: First, we know that shepherds were in the fields watching their flocks at the time of Jesus' birth (Luke 2:7-  . Shepherds were not in the fields during December. According to Celebrations: The Complete Book of American Holidays, Luke's account "suggests that Jesus may have been born in summer or early fall. Since December is cold and rainy in Judea, it is likely the shepherds would have sought shelter for their flocks at night."
Similarly, The Interpreter's One-Volume Commentary says this passage argues "against the birth (of Christ) occurring on Dec. 25 since the weather would not have permitted" shepherds watching over their flocks in the fields at night.
Second, Jesus' parents came to Bethlehem to register in a Roman census (Luke 2:1-4). Such censuses were not taken in winter, when temperatures often dropped below freezing and roads were in poor condition. Taking a census under such conditions would have been self-defeating.
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Tebor
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Knyte wrote: |
Acually, it is not a holy day, as they are refering to the birth of Christ, and science clearly shows he could not be born on December 25th. |
Oy...
(This question has been removed as part of a violation of forum rules)
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Knyte
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Well, to save arguments, let's rephrase science with "Logic", which is math. And, I cannot remember any huge Religion vs Math debates.
Happy Kwanzachanaka-x-mas!
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Char Aznable
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We already have science VS illogic, so why not that.
Also, I hated the protests against Harry Potter that the so-called "Christian community" put forth. Not because I like Harry Potter (I think it sucks ass, and pales in comparison to stuff like The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia), but because I hate it when people get a stick up their ass for no God damn reason, and then go spreading their bullshit far and wide for everyone to hear. People just need to calm the fuck down, mmkay?
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Cattivo
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Knyte wrote: |
Acually, it is not a holy day, as they are refering to the birth of Christ, and science clearly shows he could not be born on December 25th. History convincingly shows that Dec. 25 was popularized as the date for Christmas, not because Christ was born on that day, but because it was already popular in pagan religious celebrations as the birthday of the sun. Lacking any scriptural pointers to Jesus's birthday, early Christian teachers suggested dates all over the calendar. Clement . . . picked November 18. Hippolytus . . . figured Christ must have been born on a Wednesday . . . An anonymous document(,) believed to have been written in North Africa around A.D. 243, placed Jesus's birth on March 28" (Joseph L. Sheler, U.S. News & World Report, "In Search of Christmas," Dec. 23, 1996, p. 5 . |
I've heard this before, and it makes a lot of sense. However, I could just be saying that because my birthday is March 28th.
I agree with Char that the Harry Potter stuff is ridiculous too. One of my good friends is a devout Irish Catholic and he thinks the damn things should be banned. I keep telling him that it's just a stupid book for kids. He always says then that it promotes devil worship because of magic. Then I reiterate that it's a meaningless book that is just supposed to be fun. But, he doesn't get it, in spite of a lack of Harry Potter fans praying to the Devil. It's a typical Irish/Italian dynamic man, the Irish obeying the church hierarchy and the Italian being suspect of man-made rules by disconnected authority figures.
Geez, the church is in some serious need for reform.
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FNJ
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how the hell can anyone hate bill goldberg?
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Knyte
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It's the same story over and over. The church needs something to focus attention on so it can get attention, and therefor, more followers.
Remember the "Holy War" against Dungeons & Dragons in the 80's? All the stupid theories that people came up with, and the horrible after school specials.
Now it is Harry Potter that is the center of blame for the Satanic downfall of the world's children.
"Remember, it not your child's fault that he being drawn into world of satanic nightmare. It's their gym teachers fault, for making them feel outcast when they they couldn't do a single pull-up."
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Cattivo
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JEW wrote: |
how the hell can anyone hate bill goldberg? |
That whole storyline that WCW used to introduce him. Beating 100 people in a row, in spite of the fact that they were all Brooklyn Brawler equivalents. I guess I should hate the writers instead though. Whatever.
Knyte wrote: |
Remember the "Holy War" against Dungeons & Dragons in the 80's? |
I'm too young to (being born in 1980), and I never played Dungeons & Dragons, but I read some of the propaganda put out by the church around then a few years back. Hi-larious. Same old spectre of satanic worship through a silly fad.
On a sidenote, because of this thread, everyone now knows my exact date of birth.
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DarkMaze
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Knyte wrote: |
Remember the "Holy War" against Dungeons & Dragons in the 80's? All the stupid theories that people came up with, and the horrible after school specials. |
Fuck you, Tom Hanks.
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DarkMaze wrote: |
Fuck you, Tom Hanks.  |
The hell? Is that on DVD?
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