Was reading this on my Wii's News Channel and nearly did a spittake.
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Douche McCallister
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Sep 24 2009 06:19 pm
Excuse me for not being optimistic but they basically did absolutely nothing. They got 16000+ people who were HIV Negative, gave half a "Vaccine" and the other half a placebo. 74 got AIDS in the placebo group and 51 got AIDS in the Vaccine group. 23 people out of 8200 could have very easily been partners or shared an infected partner during this study. These numbers are to miniscule to warrant any kind of outstanding success.
Unless the stipulations of this experiment were to "Fuck everything that moves" or "Have sex with an HIV infected person" this means jack shit to me.
Rydog
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Sep 24 2009 06:40 pm
Douche McCallister wrote:
Excuse me for not being optimistic but they basically did absolutely nothing. They got 16000+ people who were HIV Negative, gave half a "Vaccine" and the other half a placebo. 74 got AIDS in the placebo group and 51 got AIDS in the Vaccine group. 23 people out of 8200 could have very easily been partners or shared an infected partner during this study. These numbers are to miniscule to warrant any kind of outstanding success.
Unless the stipulations of this experiment were to "Fuck everything that moves" or "Have sex with an HIV infected person" this means jack shit to me.
Agreed, if these people were free to live as they pleased then the results are very underwhelming considering the chance for error. If you really wanna test that bitch, give half the people the vaccine, then give them all HIV...then you'll get some answers...and alot of HIV, but ANSWERS!
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Sep 24 2009 06:52 pm
I hear you D. But given the big fat goose egg they've laid for all the years they've been trying to do something--anything--about AIDS, its certainly much better news than we've had in a while. Progress, however small, is still progress. And I good thing I think.
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Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.
Douche McCallister
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Sep 24 2009 07:15 pm
SoldierHawk wrote:
I hear you D. But given the big fat goose egg they've laid for all the years they've been trying to do something--anything--about AIDS, its certainly much better news than we've had in a while. Progress, however small, is still progress. And I good thing I think.
While I want to be optimistic about this there is no saying that this didn't just happened by coincidence. This "Vaccine" may do absolutely nothing to prevent HIV. It may help substantially...who knows. What they really need to worry about is a cure and not a preventitive measure to it. Especially not a Vaccine that doesn't effectively show any results other than X>Y.
Greg the White
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Sep 24 2009 08:29 pm
Douche McCallister wrote:
SoldierHawk wrote:
I hear you D. But given the big fat goose egg they've laid for all the years they've been trying to do something--anything--about AIDS, its certainly much better news than we've had in a while. Progress, however small, is still progress. And I good thing I think.
While I want to be optimistic about this there is no saying that this didn't just happened by coincidence. This "Vaccine" may do absolutely nothing to prevent HIV. It may help substantially...who knows. What they really need to worry about is a cure and not a preventitive measure to it. Especially not a Vaccine that doesn't effectively show any results other than X>Y.
I'm more cautiously optimistic, but hell, it's a stepping stone to at least eliminating down the line. Hell, it at least gives hope, and may encourage more investment in the cause.
So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
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Sep 24 2009 10:03 pm
we all know there is no money to be made in the cure. its about the treatment and prolonging of the disease
If were lucky this could be the end that unravels the knot.
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Sep 24 2009 10:52 pm
SoldierHawk wrote:
Well, its not a perfect vaccine, but nevertheless...HOOOOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(One of the most joyful scenes in movie history, if you ask me.)
Those little furry bastards kill that movie's staying power.
There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
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Sep 25 2009 12:36 am
Especially when Doom 1 story music would be slightly more fitting.
Pandajuice
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Sep 25 2009 06:31 am
SoldierHawk wrote:
I hear you D. But given the big fat goose egg they've laid for all the years they've been trying to do something--anything--about AIDS, its certainly much better news than we've had in a while. Progress, however small, is still progress. And I good thing I think.
I wouldn't say there's been no progress until this point. AIDS is no longer the death sentence it was 15 years ago, and now HIV doesn't even necessarily have to lead to AIDS, because of medical advancements in treating it. Hell, Magic Johnson is still going strong after having HIV for how long now? Is he really magic? No, he's been treated all this time by experimental cocktails and treatments.
While an AIDS vaccine is great, I think more needs to be made of the recent breakthrough in the HPV vaccine that'll innoculate millions of women from genital warts, and thus the almost guaranteed cervical/anal cancer that comes with it (it would have saved Farrah). AIDS is pretty small potatoes compared to what is essentially a cancer vaccine for a fairly prevalent STD. But no one seems to care about that one.
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Sep 25 2009 10:42 am
from what i understand, magic johnson is down to 1 AID. (family guy joke)
at any rate, he might actually be completely cured. like that south park episode pointed out, money is the cure. why is he still going strong? cause he has the money to keep going. to buy the 'cure' or 'treatment'
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Ice2SeeYou
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Sep 25 2009 01:21 pm
Whenever I hear news like this, it makes me really happy to know that there are such smart people out there who are hard at work on this kind of stuff.
The people who are out there inventing cures for diseases, electric cars, helping the blind to see, etc......I love them all. Keep going! Do it!
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Sep 25 2009 01:42 pm
Pandajuice wrote:
SoldierHawk wrote:
I hear you D. But given the big fat goose egg they've laid for all the years they've been trying to do something--anything--about AIDS, its certainly much better news than we've had in a while. Progress, however small, is still progress. And I good thing I think.
I wouldn't say there's been no progress until this point. AIDS is no longer the death sentence it was 15 years ago, and now HIV doesn't even necessarily have to lead to AIDS, because of medical advancements in treating it. Hell, Magic Johnson is still going strong after having HIV for how long now? Is he really magic? No, he's been treated all this time by experimental cocktails and treatments.
While an AIDS vaccine is great, I think more needs to be made of the recent breakthrough in the HPV vaccine that'll innoculate millions of women from genital warts, and thus the almost guaranteed cervical/anal cancer that comes with it (it would have saved Farrah). AIDS is pretty small potatoes compared to what is essentially a cancer vaccine for a fairly prevalent STD. But no one seems to care about that one.
Yeah well genital warts never got a very special episode of Captain Planet.
Stopping a cancer is nice and all, but the fact of the matter is that AIDS was the big bogeyman of the 1980s and 90s real danger be damned, so seeing it on the way to being cured is a big event like seeing Saddam Hussein yanked out of a hole and put on trial.
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Sep 25 2009 03:35 pm
Aqua Hedgehog wrote:
Especially when Doom 1 story music would be slightly more fitting.
I'm tempted to pull a random texture from Doom and put a summary of the news article to that music.
Greg the White
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Sep 26 2009 09:40 am
Syd Lexia wrote:
Wake me up when they cure Alzheimer's.
Wake me up when they cure narcolepsy.
So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
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Sep 26 2009 10:57 am
Greg the White wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
Wake me up when they cure Alzheimer's.
Wake me up when they cure narcolepsy.
jackfrost
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Sep 27 2009 12:16 am
Syd Lexia wrote:
Wake me up when they cure Alzheimer's.
Having a grandmother with this and a mother with another degenerative brain disease I have to agree.
I wanted to somehow make a post tying the AIDS vaccine into the storyline of ultimate alliance 2 with the whole nanite collective and the fold and whatnot, but it really just boiled down to an excuse to post a picture of robofury, so I'll just post the picture and not bother with all of the bullshit.
behold the greatest failure in secret character history!
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Sep 27 2009 01:27 pm
SoldierHawk wrote:
Well, its not a perfect vaccine, but nevertheless...HOOOOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(One of the most joyful scenes in movie history, if you ask me.)
Cancer, your ass is next.
this one has been universally accepted as how ROTJ should have ended according to the convention of 2007
