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lavalarva
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I'm wondering if I have an accent, or mostly if inhabitants of Quebec are considered to have one (I used AltaVista, first result on google, to translate Québécois. There's not even a word for us in english. But it should change cause we're supposed to be a nation now).
Anyway, french (here meaning from France) people have a strong accent when they speak english. It's sometimes the case when anglophones speak french. But what of us? I don't think we have much of an accent when speaking any of those two. Maybe we'd have one when speaking spanish. Or italian. Or japanese.
So, what do you think? Do you think I have any accent?
Apart from é è à ù â ê î ô û ï ë ç
You could also tell suggestions to replace "inhabitants of Quebec".
I currently think of Quebecans, Quebequeses and New-Frenches.
French Canadians are two words by the way. It's not accepted. It would be like saying United-Statians.
Edit : 18th post in 4 days. Cool
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niku
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umm how can we tell if you have an accent on an internet discussion forum?
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lavalarva
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I mean do you think people in Quebec have an accent, not necessarely me in particular.
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Lady_Satine
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The only exposure to how Quebecers sound I've had has been South Park and a dream Jay Sherman was having on The Critic. However I know, being from the American Southeast that I've got an accent (it's not as bad as "What's wrong? I say you he day-ed") but it's not on nearly the level of the stereotype.
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S. McCracken
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I've been to Montreal a few times, and there are people who have the accent and people who don't. Most of them will come though on words with a lot of vowels in them.
And the word I used to describe people from Quebec is Quebeccers, like the old tag team.
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Syd Lexia
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Shit, who were The Quebecers? It was the Mountie and Pierre Oulette (sp?) right? Wasn't Raven their manager at one point?
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S. McCracken
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Syd Lexia wrote: |
Shit, who were The Quebecers? It was the Mountie and Pierre Oulette (sp?) right? Wasn't Raven their manager at one point? |
Uh, I think you mean Johnny Polo, thank you very much.
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Syd Lexia
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LMAO.... Johnny Polo.
What about ME? What about Johnny Polo?
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Syd Lexia
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In answet to the original question... I went to high school with a French Canadian girl and she spoke English without any real accent. Of course, she moved to the US when she was reasonably young, so that might have effect it.
I don't think Patricia Petite has an accent, but it's hard to tell. Most of her roles don't require her to speak much.
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Char Aznable
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Regional accents tend to grow on you, if you aren't careful. When I moved to Missouri, I made fun of the accents. Then I caught myself saying "y'all" the other day. Suffice to say, I now watch how I speak.
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Rycona
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As I live next to Canadia, I've been there quite often, usually to Ottawa. I've been to Quebec quite a few times as you can take buses from the city into Quebec. Last time, I went to the Lac-Lemmy Casino and won $40 Canuck Bucks on Video Poker.
I grew up thinking that les quebecois (excuse the lack of accents, I'm on a laptop and it's difficult to use the shortcuts) were very hateful of English speakers. Maybe it used to be like that, or maybe it died down; I don't know. I've even been to Montreal and I was astonished at how many English speakers there were there and I don't just mean people of business. I talked to a lot of people in the streets and they spoke English pretty well. As far as an accent? I'll say that some do and some don't. I've met people who speak excellent French and excellent English who were born and raised in Quebec. Hell, I've even met natural quebecois who don't really know French.
The thing that confuses me is the quebecois dialect of French (or just quebecois) has quite a few differences from standard French. It just irks me when I'm walking around Quebec somewhere and I see grammar that would be considered incorrect or slang in French. Basically, the same thing I do with English. Maybe I'll learn to accept different cultures someday.
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lavalarva
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There may be people who hate English-speakers in Quebec, but there are also Canadians who hate French-speakers.
No matter where you go, there will always be idiots.
In Canada, most people make some fun of the other group. I don't think it's any near as being hateful.
But it seems people here don't like much the Americans. They're too stupid to realize not everyone is like George Bush.
That, or they don't like the overpatriotism and paranoïa that is in the US.
Personnally, I don't like the NRA.
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Rycona
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I'm not a huge fan of America myself. People always talk what we have here and yada yada yada. People get stuck on what we do have (which is debatable in some areas) and don't look at what we could have. It's that whole "Be thankful for what you have instead of looking toward something better" type thing-a-majigger.
I'm sure I'll be feeling better about America around 2008.
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Cattivo
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Rycona wrote: |
I'm sure I'll be feeling better about America around 2008. |
Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
I'm just glad I don't live in a Western European country like Germany or France where their social democracy has resulted in unemployment rates around 12% nationally and 25% for young adults.
I'm also glad I don't live in Canada because then I would be required to give up an excessively large chunk of my paycheck to pay for an inefficient healthcare system that leaves no choice for the patient and waiting periods for important surgery measured in years. The best way to make something be run poorly is give control of it to the government.
I'll take life in America any day of the week because of my easy access to the best education in the world, freedom of choice in attaining the best hospital care in the world, and the protection of the mightiest military ever known to grace the planet.
You ask what we could have? We could have the apathy of a broken welfare state within a decaying continent that has already seen its day in the Sun.
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Lady_Satine
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"French Canada is the best Canada, It's the best Canada in the land. The other Canada is a bull $&#% Canada, if you lived here one more day you'd understand..."
Sorry, but the last few posts got that song from South Park in my head.
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Mr. Bomberman
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Rycona wrote: |
I'm not a huge fan of America myself. People always talk what we have here and yada yada yada. People get stuck on what we do have (which is debatable in some areas) and don't look at what we could have. It's that whole "Be thankful for what you have instead of looking toward something better" type thing-a-majigger.
I'm sure I'll be feeling better about America around 2008. |
Just the thought of a possible black president brings me joy.
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Cattivo wrote: |
I'm also glad I don't live in Canada because then I would be required to give up an excessively large chunk of my paycheck to pay for an inefficient healthcare system that leaves no choice for the patient and waiting periods for important surgery measured in years. |
When I shattered my wrist, I went to the hospital (eventually) and had x-rays and my surgery that day. I spent three days hopped up on Morphine, eating..., well..., for free, and all it cost me was $15 for the cast on my arm.
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Cattivo
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Mr. Bomberman wrote: |
Just the thought of a possible black president brings me joy. |
Rice 2008
I'm hoping for a Giuliani/Rice ticket actually
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Cattivo
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Sorry for the repost, but I had some trouble re-finding these videos.
Valdronius wrote: |
When I shattered my wrist, I went to the hospital (eventually) and had x-rays and my surgery that day. I spent three days hopped up on Morphine, eating..., well..., for free, and all it cost me was $15 for the cast on my arm. |
While you got cheap minor surgery (after waiting), other people are kept waiting even longer for major surgery.
For example, this man had to go to the US in order to get life saving brain surgery in a timely fashion:
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/brainsurgery.html
For a more comprehensive study with more examples try this short film: (the QuickTime version seems to work better)
http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/
In this movie we see a woman who has been waiting over two years to have knee replacement surgery after getting her other knee replaced. One couple, when told they would have to wait two years just for a consultation for hip replacement surgery, went to Belgium instead to have the surgery immediately. Another man waited 18 months to get cataract surgery. In the meantime he was going blind. One elderly woman waited 16 months for knee replacement surgery. While waiting she got addicted to pain killers, which her doctor told her to expect to happen. She's had the surgery, but is still addicted. Now she's waiting for drug treatment. And finally, the film details a case of a woman who was waiting over two years for heart surgery, but died in the meantime after numerous cancellations of scheduled surgery.
These are peoples lives and careers at stake, but the bureacracy of the Canadian government makes people wait, while they often suffer, and in some cases die. In the US, people in similar situations have their surgery right away.
Isn't the free market a marvelous thing? It saves lives and unwarranted pain and grief.
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Knyte
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The US ain't perfect by a long shot.
What if you do not have Health Insurance in the US?
You can try to get State Medical Aid. I was having some very bad pains a few years ago while I was unemployed. So, I found out it would have cost me over $600 dollars to see a doctor, get the x-rays, and get a prescription if I just walked in. So, I went to the Oregon Health Center, spent 2 hours waiting to talk to someone, then found out that before I could be helped by them, I would need to get a prelim physical. So, I said sure, no problem. Then they told me to go back to the front desk and schedule an appontment for the pre-lim. I went back to the Front Desk, and they told me the 1st opening they had was in 4 MONTHS! And, I had to that before I could be checked and treated for my pain issue!
I ended up having a friend give me some leftover Vicitin he had from a surgery, and another friend who was in school to be a Physical Theripist help me with my pain. (Turned out to be a slipped disk.)
Yay, United States... You suck.
And, I am not even going to talk about the 50 other people in the Health Center waiting room getting help, and they did not even speak english, which makes me question their legal citizenship status....
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Cattivo
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Knyte wrote: |
I went back to the Front Desk, and they told me the 1st opening they had was in 4 MONTHS! |
When I'm talking about waiting multiple years for life saving brain and heart surgery, 4 months seems inconsequential for a vague symptomatology of pain.
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Yay, United States... You suck. |
Now there's an appropriate and reasoned response.
America isn't perfect, but it has a hell of a lot more going for it than other countries. Remember, it can always be worse. You could be stuck starving in Africa, suffering civil war after civil war in South America, or lack basic rights such as freedom of speech, the press, religion, assembly, etc, in China.
Believe me, I look at medical records almost everyday for long-term disability cases that have resulted in litigation at work . I see knee replacement surgery, back fusion surgery, cardiac catheterizations, etc. All of these were done as soon as the treating physicians recommended it. These might have become borderline disability cases later on, resulting in our client being sued when benefits were terminated, but the bottom line is this is because their access to these procedures was easy and in almost every case led to improvement of their symptomatologies. These are only a small selection of the cases, as most don't result in litigation, but instead the patients getting better and returning to work.
By the way, what happened to your old sig? I liked that one, it reminded me of the nostalgia of my buddies wasting afternoons away in High School playing King of Fighters 95 on the PS1. May I suggest a Mortal Kombat Trilogy or Worms gif instead?
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Knyte
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Knyte wrote: |
Yay, United States... You suck. |
= SARCASM
Cattivo wrote: |
America isn't perfect, but it has a hell of a lot more going for it than other countries. Remember, it can always be worse. You could be stuck starving in Africa, suffering civil war after civil war in South America, or lack basic rights such as freedom of speech, the press, religion, assembly, etc, in China.
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Yes, but in China, I would get better faster internet*, more MMORPGS per year to play, and eye candy such as:
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*http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/12/11/tgd_top_10_2006_disappointments/page7.html
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Sock
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You ever listen to Mario Lemieux talk? That kid grew up not speaking English.
I've had to watch more than a few pre-games in French (God damn Center Ice, why does it give me the French feeds?), and from what I've gathered, they don't have an accent. I don't live in Canada, so make of my observation what you will.
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