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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
PostPosted: Jul 06 2010 03:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blizzard,

Holy Fucking Crap.

http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25626109041
http://us.battle.net/realid


The short of it, Blizzard Forumers will be represented by their real first and last names rather than their character names or aliases.

Yeah... I have a feeling that people will be shutting up right about the moment that this happens. While Blizzard may think this is a good move to facilitate conversation, I think asshole trolls don't care about what they say or how they are known and at the same time, most normal people aren't interested in presenting themselves online for all of Google to see.



 
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Title: owner of a lonely heart
Joined: Jul 06 2007
Location: phoenix, az usa
PostPosted: Jul 06 2010 06:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

eh, i never use their forums, so no biggie


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JonSnow
Joined: Nov 03 2006
PostPosted: Jul 06 2010 07:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What about old posts they get changed to the person's real name?


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Andrew Man
Title: Is a Funklord
Joined: Jan 30 2007
Location: Annandale, VA
PostPosted: Jul 06 2010 10:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow, that is pretty wild.


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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
Joined: Sep 01 2007
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PostPosted: Jul 06 2010 10:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What's to stop to them from registering as 236928364924 shfkshdfjksd from 123 fake Street Springfield Kentucky?



 
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Andrew Man
Title: Is a Funklord
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PostPosted: Jul 06 2010 10:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

^ great Simpsons reference.


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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
PostPosted: Jul 07 2010 06:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, I'm not really sure what Blizzard is doing lately with this stuff. Last November, they forced all World of Warcraft accounts to be merged with Battle.net accounts; or if you didn't have a Battle.net account, you had to create one and then merge them. Doing so reduced the overall security of all accounts and a lot of people got hacked during the merge which was very convenient for Blizzard who just happened to start selling optional authenticator dongles at about the same time.

Now they've introduced this RealID which, not only reveals first and last name on the forums, but also means if you add someone to your friends list within WoW, they can now see all of your other friends details, their other friends and their friends can now see your details, and see whenever you're online on any character and presumable any Blizzard game so there's no hiding.

It's insane how bad an idea this is as it makes hacking an account so much easier than it used to be.
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Alowishus
Joined: Aug 04 2009
PostPosted: Jul 07 2010 08:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

I am really not for this at all. I don't post on the forums there at all (i play WoW though and Starcraft 2 when it's getting released) so it won't effect me too much.

The reason i have heard they are doing this is to stop trolling... at the expense of peoples personal information being displayed.

Someone here could easily argue "Oh you use facebook, your personal details are being revealed"

This is quite true but the only difference is that i am the one who is displaying that information and i have control over it. Not a corporation. On saying that it's not clear exactly what will be displayed, is it just your name or is it other stuff as well like your address, age etc? I don't display that stuff on facebook (well i do age it's not that important) like phone numbers, addresses etc.

So if i don't display them and if it's the case that Blizzard will - i will not be best amused.

Oh course even if Blizzard DON'T display those you can easily be found. The internet is essentially a huge database. There are websites out there that can easily track people with just their name and country. Find their facebooks, bebos, twitters, whatever.

Now even though i don't display lots of my personal information i am sure that there are people who do. If i went onto a site e.g.

http://www.pipl.com/ - go on that and type yourself in, you will be surprised that info appears.

and typed the required details in i could find more details about you. So even though blizzard don't supply it, it can be found.

So you ask - "So what?"

You may or may not remember the man who killed another man with a sword because he wouldn't trade an ingame item?

Imagine disagreeing with someone in WoW about ANYTHING, groups, money, loot, whatever. They could just hop online grab your address or house number and harass you.

Now not many people will do this.. but the possibility still exists and has been created due to Blizzard doing this.

Like holy fuck, Blizzard used to be a great company releasing great games. Now they are just a bunch of dicks and i really hope that they will listen to the hundreds of protests about this.

Though i can expect to see the WoW forums becoming a ghost town.
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Slayer1
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Joined: Sep 23 2008
PostPosted: Jul 07 2010 11:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

So much for the Aspect of being "Anon" on the Blizzard Forums...
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Medisinn
Title: King Awesome
Joined: Jul 02 2010
Location: Phoenix
PostPosted: Jul 07 2010 12:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That's pretty wild. I can see where they're going with it - maybe it will help cut down on flaming and whatnot. Isn't that what the internet is for though, slandering others anonymously?

It's one of those things that is way better on paper. Like Unicru personality tests that any faceless corporation seems to require you to fill out when applying for a job. In theory it makes sense, but in practice it's completely worthless and anti-effective.


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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
PostPosted: Jul 07 2010 01:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I haven't played WoW in 2 years 10 months and 20 days, so I'm not worried about this impacting me.

However, I don't like the concept.

Blizzard would have been better off stating that all new games would require a Blizzard ID. The ID would tie to a CD key that came with the game. They already have this part done.

Next up, simply tell people that if they are bad in the forums their CD Keys will be invalidated and they will loose access to play their games.

This allows anonymity and promotes healthy conversation without trolling.



 
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
PostPosted: Jul 07 2010 01:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

GPFontaine wrote:
I haven't played WoW in 2 years 10 months and 20 days


Congratulations! Keep going to meetings and keep your sponsor close. I recently had a relapse myself, but I'm back off the drug and a month sober now.
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Shut up, Dorn
Title: White Chocolate
Joined: Jan 04 2008
Location: Grate Whyte Norf
PostPosted: Jul 07 2010 03:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I searched myself on that pipi and it got some of me correct, but not all.

The hell with Blizzard, the hell with WOW!


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Joined: Mar 01 2010
PostPosted: Jul 08 2010 02:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

Overall, with the ReadID change, I don't like it at all. If it were an optional change, I could live with that, but a mandatory change just seems to raise too many issues.

GPFontaine wrote:
Blizzard would have been better off stating that all new games would require a Blizzard ID. The ID would tie to a CD key that came with the game. They already have this part done.

Next up, simply tell people that if they are bad in the forums their CD Keys will be invalidated and they will loose access to play their games.


I can agree with tying your account to a CD Key, but I don't like the idea of shutting off game access for violations in the forums. Besides, if CDs and accounts were connected, then a person would have to buy a new game to continue trolling on the forums, which I can't see many people keeping up.
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Alowishus
Joined: Aug 04 2009
PostPosted: Jul 08 2010 07:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

I cancelled my WoW account yesterday just until i see how this Real ID pans out.

I've ordered Starcraft 2 though... i may need to cancel it. I only really intend to play single player though, so i don't know if that will have an effect - i heard to play single player you have to go online like how steam works.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
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PostPosted: Jul 08 2010 12:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Most likely Alowishus; most PC games these days require you to be online. RealID will work the same way in all of Blizzard's games as it will in WoW: Buddy lists will be like Facebook where friends of friends of friends can see your details, and anytime you post on an official forum, your real name will be used.

I reckon this will be such a PR nightmare for them though (it already is) that they will seriously reconsider this system at the end of the day. It's turning into a huge debacle and all attempts Blizzard have made so far of calming everyone down have backfired, including a moderator giving his real name out to prove nothing could be done with it, only to see pictures of his address, phone number, and pictures of his house posted in the same thread.

I really don't see this ending well for the company.
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
PostPosted: Jul 08 2010 12:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Pandajuice wrote:
Most likely Alowishus; most PC games these days require you to be online. RealID will work the same way in all of Blizzard's games as it will in WoW: Buddy lists will be like Facebook where friends of friends of friends can see your details, and anytime you post on an official forum, your real name will be used.

I reckon this will be such a PR nightmare for them though (it already is) that they will seriously reconsider this system at the end of the day. It's turning into a huge debacle and all attempts Blizzard have made so far of calming everyone down have backfired, including a moderator giving his real name out to prove nothing could be done with it, only to see pictures of his address, phone number, and pictures of his house posted in the same thread.

I really don't see this ending well for the company.

What mod volunteered to be first? Seriously, given that there is a huge community of 10+ million people playing a computer game, you have to assume some of them are capable of programming and hacking. It isn't a long shot to assume that people would be able to learn a lot about those they play with if they began with the knowledge of who they were talking to.



 
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Alowishus
Joined: Aug 04 2009
PostPosted: Jul 08 2010 05:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Pandajuice wrote:
Most likely Alowishus; most PC games these days require you to be online. RealID will work the same way in all of Blizzard's games as it will in WoW: Buddy lists will be like Facebook where friends of friends of friends can see your details, and anytime you post on an official forum, your real name will be used.

I reckon this will be such a PR nightmare for them though (it already is) that they will seriously reconsider this system at the end of the day. It's turning into a huge debacle and all attempts Blizzard have made so far of calming everyone down have backfired, including a moderator giving his real name out to prove nothing could be done with it, only to see pictures of his address, phone number, and pictures of his house posted in the same thread.

I really don't see this ending well for the company.


Well with Steam games you can go online once and then change it to play offline. Hopefully you can do that.

Yeah i saw the thread were the details were posted. Blizzard has just gone to shit. I've been playing their games since Warcraft I, hell the Lost Vikings when they were still Silicon and Synapse. This is just a stupid move and i really hope they pay for it.

I've read concerns from many female players and if i was female i would be concerned due to the stalking that could occur etc.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
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PostPosted: Jul 08 2010 07:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, all the females in my guild are freaking out too, to put it lightly.
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Drew Linky
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Joined: Jun 12 2009
PostPosted: Jul 09 2010 01:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

I WAS considering reactivating my account, but not after this shit. Fuck you, Blizzard.


https://discord.gg/homestuck is where you can find me literally 99% of the time. Stop on by if you feel like it, we're a nice crowd.
 
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GPFontaine
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Location: Connecticut
PostPosted: Jul 09 2010 11:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm betting 50/50 that they will amend this decision and make it optional in the future.



 
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
PostPosted: Jul 09 2010 12:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, I can't see this decision lasting much longer. I think they'll ultimately change their minds about implementing it, offer up some kind of excuse as to why their servers can't handle the increase in information or some other bullshit, and then sweep the whole thing under the rug and hope people forget about it.
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
PostPosted: Jul 09 2010 12:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

what a wishy washy company. they need to stick to their guns to earn my respect again but to be fair, i havent purchased anything from them since Diablo ii expansion pack. if they waffle, I wont be buying starcraft 2 or diablo 3. theyre reminding me a lot of john mccain right now


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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Jul 09 2010 12:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nah, they'll pull an Apple. They'll say it works fine but we have been seeing the wrong names all along. Razz



 
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
PostPosted: Jul 09 2010 01:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hot off the WoW general forum, posted 45 minutes ago, saying just what I thought they'd do:

Quote:

We've been constantly monitoring the feedback you've given us, as well as internally discussing your concerns about the use of real names on our forums. As a result of those discussions, we've decided at this time that real names will not be required for posting on official Blizzard forums.

It's important to note that we still remain committed to improving our forums. Our efforts are driven 100% by the desire to find ways to make our community areas more welcoming for players and encourage more constructive conversations about our games. We will still move forward with new forum features such as conversation threading, the ability to rate posts up or down, improved search functionality, and more. However, when we launch the new StarCraft II forums that include these new features, you will be posting by your StarCraft II Battle.net character name + character code, not your real name. The upgraded World of Warcraft forums with these new features will launch close to the release of Cataclysm, and also will not require your real name.
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