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How will XBox 360 work in the future?


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 04:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

These days, you can buy third party hardware to play your old NES and/or SNES games. Might something like this exist for the XBox 360 some 20 years from now? If so, here's what it should have:

1. The ability to instantly "unlock" DLC content that's already on the game disk (e.g. Darth Vader in Soul Calibur IV, the extra ships in Raiden IV)
2. A simulated version of XBox Marketplace that offers all the long unavailable DLC for the old games for free.
3. A simulated version of Live run on private servers.
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The Opponent
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 05:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This is the only thing I have against the new consoles. Years after they lose viability, those who missed out on it will never ever get a chance to play it all. Used consoles have absolutely no assurance that they will be able to access anything online at all, as they may have been banned or modified to not need internet access. At least the Wii won't have this problem, Rock Band notwithstanding.


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TARDISman
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 05:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Chances are they'll release all the old DLC for free a couple years after the Xbox 720 (or whatever they call it) comes out. I'm holding out for that...


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The Opponent
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 05:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Chances are just as likely they'll release all DLC ever in a single expensive package after enough time passes.


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Milhouse
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 06:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Play it now or you won't ever get a chance. This is Microsoft...call customer support with a question about Windows 98 and see what they say.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 06:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, the same question applies to the PS3.
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 06:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
2. A simulated version of XBox Marketplace that offers all the long unavailable DLC for the old games for free.

Well they fucked over people with Original Xbox games with that taking it all down with the shutdown. There is a DLC archive/installer project that saved most of the more popular content but what was saved was what was supplied to the project by the community.
The Original Xbox DLC is basically abandonware now and 90% of it was free in the first place or over time except some stuff from lucas arts and ubisoft http://digiex.net/downloads/download-center-2-0/consoles-homebrew/675-xbox-offline-xbox-live-downloadable-content-dlc-installers.html
^You need a modded xbox for that

Syd Lexia wrote:
3. A simulated version of Live run on private servers.

For the 360 your fucked because most games have a lan (system-link) ping limit (30-60 depending on the game). To stop people from useing tunneling programs like XBC and Xlink, like people used and still use with the Original Xbox. It's so your forced to get Xbox live to play online. So when a company stops supporting a game you can't play it online ever again like with chromehounds.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 07:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A third party XBox would essentially need to build its own modified OS, possibly from the ground up, to accomplish the things it would need to accomplish.
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Grover
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 07:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What would be needed would be a set of pirate Xbox Live server that would allow any console to play.
But if this does happen, chances are it'll be terribly laggy due to the huge amount of resources required to run servers for so many users. Microsoft can afford to run Xbox live, but private users couldn't.
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 07:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Most of the worthwhile DLC from this generation gets released on physical media at some point via expansion discs and GOTY editions. In 20 years I don't think anybody is going to care too much about missing a bonus weapon, outfit, item or whatever that doesn't impact the overall gameplay.
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PostPosted: May 16 2010 12:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

You say that now, but I would think that eventually we will. With old consoles, the ROMs don't have anything like DLC, but we do have just about every single one out there save for a few unreleased prototypes. A lot of those games' manuals are also scanned somewhere. The uncertain future of old DLC is the collector mentality's nightmare. Can DLC be stored outside of the original owner's hard drive for others to see?


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hobojoe44
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PostPosted: May 17 2010 01:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The-Excel wrote:
Can DLC be stored outside of the original owner's hard drive for others to see?

Look at my first post in the thread.

For the original Xbox/360 when the DLC is installed on the console it is signed to that console, so just doing a copy and paste job to another console wont work.
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