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IceWarm
Joined: Dec 22 2008
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I saw District 9 on Monday night, there was a preview for Saw VI. This is getting fucking annoying. As soon as the preview started I knew it was for. Do we need a fucking Saw movie every year?
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"Fighting in a basement offers a lot of difficulties, number one being, you're fighting in a basement."
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Fernin
Title: Comic Author
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From wikipedia:
In 2009, when discussing the future of the franchise, producer Troy Begnaud stated that if fan reception continued to be positive, the franchise would continue. When asked the specifics, he mentioned a 3D film as a possibility, but had not been officially discussed.[36] Also citing continued fan reception, star Tobin Bell stated that possible seventh and eighth films could be made.[37]
On July 18, 2009 it was reported that the writers of the fourth, fifth, and sixth entries, Marcus Dunstan and Patrick Melton, would return to write a seventh film in the franchise.[38] This was confirmed later in the same month when David Hackl, director of the fifth installment, and producers Mark Burg and Oren Koules were also confirmed to be returning to make the seventh installment.[39] During an event regarding the Dunstan and Melton penned film The Collector, it was confirmed that the 3D sequel will most likely be the seventh film.[40]
Sadly, the Saw series isn't likely to end any time soon.
A friend of mine informs me that he's known since before the third movie came out that there would be six movies, and that the sixth movie would tie everything up and end the series. He's always defended the series, saying that they had a story to tell, and that they weren't just cashing in on the series. Now... it seems that they are just cashing in. Upon hearing that there's to be a seventh movie, and possibly an eighth... he was pretty pissed.
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anorexorcist
Title: Polar Bear
Joined: May 21 2008
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This is the first time in my life that a movie franchise starts and reaches 6 movies in 6 years. I wonder how far it will go.
Oren Koules is part owner of the Tampa Bay Lightning and he is a joke, him and the other co owner are both Hollywood types and used to play hockey so they're taking a shot to see what it's like to be in the NHL bussiness.
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IceWarm
Joined: Dec 22 2008
Location: Breckenridge, Colorado
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Thanks for the references Fernin. I'm not surprised by this but it still sucks they make a movie a year. I enjoyed the first two but after that it became overkill. Saw...The Madden of movies...we add one new twist a year!"
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"Anybody who ever built an empire, or changed the world, sat where you are now. And it’s because they sat there that they were able to do it."
"Fighting in a basement offers a lot of difficulties, number one being, you're fighting in a basement."
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Thorton02
Joined: Mar 13 2009
Location: Arlington
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I felt the exact same way when I saw the preview for Police Academy 6: City Under Seige. That movie sucked.
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ReeperTheSeeker
Joined: Aug 26 2007
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you'd think jigsaw would have gotten desensitized to torturing people after saw III. I've never seen the movies but hearing this still makes me a sad panda.
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Lady_Satine
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| ReeperTheSeeker wrote: |
| you'd think jigsaw would have gotten desensitized to torturing people after saw III. I've never seen the movies but hearing this still makes me a sad panda. |
Well after Saw III, he's dead anyway. I think Saw IV was about autopsying the body among other things.
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"Life is a waste of time. Time is a waste of life. Get wasted all the time, and you'll have the time of your life!" |
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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| ReeperTheSeeker wrote: |
| you'd think jigsaw would have gotten desensitized to torturing people after saw III. I've never seen the movies but hearing this still makes me a sad panda. |
Well after Saw III, he's dead anyway. I think Saw IV was about autopsying the body among other things. |
and a new Jigsaw was in the mix, but we dont really know his drive or his motives.
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Cameron
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I've seen all the Saw movies at some point or another. The first four were great, but I saw the fifth one in theaters last year, and it was incredibly underwhelming. The plot felt choppy, the ( *SPOILER ALERT*) character who's supposed to replace Jigsaw felt unfit for the part (it didn't seem like he was particularly motivated to continue Jigsaw's work). Though the movie was 92 minutes long, it honestly seemed like maybe 60 because so little actually happened in terms of plot and contribution to the Saw universe. The worst part of it was the fact that the traps, which are normally the best part of the movies, felt uninspired (except for the saw box trap towards the end, which had a pretty interesting concept).
And on top of all that, Del's gone completely mental! 
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Dorkus
Joined: Jul 19 2009
Location: England
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I really, really hate this series. I didn't even think the first movie was all that good, which people will often defend as being the only good one. There's no sense of closure with any of them, and I feel like they're gonna drag the sequels out for as long as people realize this and stop forking out cash to see them. The entire end to the franchise will be some bullshitty "draw your own conclusion" ending, I'm willing to bet.
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Syd Lexia
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Tobin Bell was signed for five more movies after the success of the first one.
Then, in an M. Night Shylamanesque move, they killed him off in the third one. I really want to see Cary Elwes return as Dr. Lawrence Gordon. I know he sued the producers over contract issues and got an out-of-court settlement from them, so they probably won't reuse him. But his fate was left intentionally ambiguous, and it would be nice to see him return.
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Ermac
Title: Thread Killer
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
Tobin Bell was signed for five more movies after the success of the first one.
Then, in an M. Night Shylamanesque move, they killed him off in the third one. I really want to see Cary Elwes return as Dr. Lawrence Gordon. I know he sued the producers over contract issues and got an out-of-court settlement from them, so they probably won't reuse him. But his fate was left intentionally ambiguous, and it would be nice to see him return. |
Yeah Elwes is the character that all the Saw fanboys want to return the most. Elwes seems still annoyed by how he was done by Twisted and seems to be holding a continual grudge over it based on some information on a fan site who interviewed him.
I was pissed that Danny Glover's character was killed off in the first one because he was part of the reason the movie was so good. Bring back Danny somehow.
I also thought that they totally ruined Donnie Walberg's character in Saw IV on that block of ice shit.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
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As long as the movies are entertaining (and so far, they have been), I'll keep watching them and keep supporting them every year. I've always enjoyed the Saw series and I think it's great that there is a modern series of films that are reminiscent of the 80s horror flicks that just kept going, sequel after sequel.
If you don't like the films, then don't see them. I don't know how you can find it annoying or a personal affront to your sensibilities that they want to make more films in the series as if it has anything to do with you. Just shut the fuck up and let those of us who enjoy the series do so without hearing about how much you hate it all the time.
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Ermac
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| Pandajuice wrote: |
As long as the movies are entertaining (and so far, they have been), I'll keep watching them and keep supporting them every year. I've always enjoyed the Saw series and I think it's great that there is a modern series of films that are reminiscent of the 80s horror flicks that just kept going, sequel after sequel.
If you don't like the films, then don't see them. I don't know how you can find it annoying or a personal affront to your sensibilities that they want to make more films in the series as if it has anything to do with you. Just shut the fuck up and let those of us who enjoy the series do so without hearing about how much you hate it all the time. |
I was hugely disapointed with Saw V and I think alot of people were as well. I basically lost alot of interest in the franchise after that "horrible" experience.
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username
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| Ermac wrote: |
| Pandajuice wrote: |
As long as the movies are entertaining (and so far, they have been), I'll keep watching them and keep supporting them every year. I've always enjoyed the Saw series and I think it's great that there is a modern series of films that are reminiscent of the 80s horror flicks that just kept going, sequel after sequel.
If you don't like the films, then don't see them. I don't know how you can find it annoying or a personal affront to your sensibilities that they want to make more films in the series as if it has anything to do with you. Just shut the fuck up and let those of us who enjoy the series do so without hearing about how much you hate it all the time. |
I was hugely disapointed with Saw V and I think alot of people were as well. I basically lost alot of interest in the franchise after that "horrible" experience. |
i havent seen part V. i wouldnt say the other IV were terrible, but i didnt mind watching them. and as panda said, just get off your high horse and stop watching if you dont like.
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SoldierHawk
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| Ermac wrote: |
| I was hugely disapointed with Saw V and I think alot of people were as well. I basically lost alot of interest in the franchise after that "horrible" experience. |
There's a movie that involves graphic torture and mutilation that's NOT a horrible experience? Really?? 
(  . Well, not really a joke for me, but I totally get that plenty of other people enjoy the series for many reasons, and I'll stop being snotty about it now.)
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Miguelius
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I've never seen any of the films, and I feel pride in saying that I don't plan on watching any of them at least ina while....
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
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Guys, the movies do not feature graphic torture scenes. It does show people in torturous situations via the traps, but it's not like you're watching someone's skin tear apart, body parts exploding, or something totally grotesque like that. Anything graphic is in context and makes sense within the plot, so it's not like it's a movie just filled with gore for the sake of it that's going to make you vomit.
They're just movies, not snuff films. You're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't at least watched the first Saw.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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| Pandajuice wrote: |
Guys, the movies do not feature graphic torture scenes. It does show people in torturous situations via the traps, but it's not like you're watching someone's skin tear apart, body parts exploding, or something totally grotesque like that. Anything graphic is in context and makes sense within the plot, so it's not like it's a movie just filled with gore for the sake of it that's going to make you vomit.
They're just movies, not snuff films. You're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't at least watched the first Saw. |
if you want that, watch the Hostel movies. i hate those movies
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SoldierHawk
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| Pandajuice wrote: |
Guys, the movies do not feature graphic torture scenes. It does show people in torturous situations via the traps, but it's not like you're watching someone's skin tear apart, body parts exploding, or something totally grotesque like that. Anything graphic is in context and makes sense within the plot, so it's not like it's a movie just filled with gore for the sake of it that's going to make you vomit.
They're just movies, not snuff films. You're doing yourself a disservice if you haven't at least watched the first Saw. |
Naw, I understand, actually. I've said my piece on Saw elsewhere so I won't rehash the whole thing here--suffice to say I respect the movies for what they are (and I certainly respect them far more than a series like Hostel, like User said), but they aren't my thing. More power to you if you like 'em, though; I hear the better entries in the series are actually very compelling.
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ReeperTheSeeker
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Warning: my knowledge maybe a spoiler for those who have not seen any saw yet.
I understand from a friend that Jigsaw is more like an extreme psychiatrist, putting people through deadly situation so if they come out of it alive then they appreciate life a whole lot more. Much like Ozymandias, trying to make the world a better place through pure evil.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
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| ReeperTheSeeker wrote: |
I understand from a friend that Jigsaw is more like an extreme psychiatrist, putting people through deadly situation so if they come out of it alive then they appreciate life a whole lot more. Much like Ozymandias, trying to make the world a better place through pure evil. |
Right, that's exactly it.
Spoiler Alert!
Jigsaw himself has inoperable brain cancer, so he is going to slowly die soon. Because of that, he finds healthy people who are voluntarily screwing up thier lives (addicted to heroine, cheating on their spouse, emo and suicidal, etc) and puts them in these situations that will kill them, but they have a chance to survive if they really want to live (such as a locked headpiece that will explode in 60 seconds unless you can find the key hidden inside a corpse). The goal is that if they do survive, they will appreciate life and being alive a hell of a lot more after the near death experience, and stop being so willingly self-destructive.
He isn't just a mindless torturer/serial killer. There is a motive behind it, and every victim has a chance to survive if they really want to and are clever enough.
End Spoilers!
What I love most about the films is that the traps become more and more intricate and complex as it goes on, and the twists in each movie are really clever, and fun.
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anorexorcist
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I enjoyed the first one a fair bit, two was ok, I thought three was pretty terrible so I stopped after that.
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TheRoboSleuth
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I'm going to make a movie called "Attack of the plot device killer" about a guy who murders people in ways that are interesting to the audience so that they can indulge their sadistic fantasies. He'll have a motivation in that his mother was killed by a plot device, so that we can turn this from a pointless exercise in human cruelty to a pointless exercise in human cruelty with a justified moral ala the mass executions in roman coliseums. Then I'll keep on making them until even that shred of justification is gone and the whole premise has crumbled apart but people will still keep going cause its never been about anything else in the movie, it was always the voyeuristic pleasure of seeing people ruined in interesting ways now wasn't it? Christians tore down the gladiator fights too, but they kept the public hangings and beheadings and burnings and the crowd cheered like before.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
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It's a fictional movie RobotGumshoe, not a yearly public execution under the veil of sport.
Lighten up.
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