FNJ wrote:

wasn't mechassault a continuation of mechwarrior?

As the Forums resident smelly Battletech nerd I'll field this one.

Supposedly yes, but if you ask me it was Microsoft milking the IP to make a stripped down idiot proof multiplayer game for the console tards. Mechassault took the preexisting back story characters and gameplay concept and chucked it out the fucking window. The only thing worse to come out of the circle jerk of Battletech re imagining after Fasa dropped the ball was Wizkidz's horrendous reboot of the storyline with Mechwarrior: Dark Ages.

*edit*

The "computer" I'm on is slow as shit so that video is choppy, I saw some Clan Mechs and a Clan Wolf Banner, any word of what Clans / Inner Sphere Nations are gonna be in this? If the storyline involves Clan VS Inner Sphere either Pre Tukayyid or Post Tukayyid I'll take out a loan just to get a computer that can run Crisis.

SoldierHawk wrote:

Blackout wrote: FNJ wrote: wasn't mechassault a continuation of mechwarrior? As the Forums resident smelly Battletech nerd I'll field this one. Supposedly yes, but if you ask me it was Microsoft milking the IP to make a stripped down idiot proof multiplayer game for the console tards. Mechassault took the preexisting back story characters and gameplay concept and chucked it out the fucking window. The only thing worse to come out of the circle jerk of Battletech re imagining after Fasa dropped the ball was Wizkidz's horrendous reboot of the storyline with Mechwarrior: Dark Ages. *edit* The "computer" I'm on is slow as shit so that video is choppy, I saw some Clan Mechs and a Clan Wolf Banner, any word of what Clans / Inner Sphere Nations are gonna be in this? If the storyline involves Clan VS Inner Sphere either Pre Tukayyid or Post Tukayyid I'll take out a loan just to get a computer that can run Crisis. Not the only resident BattleTech nerd, just so's you know . I'm a sucker for this stuff. (Although, sacrilegious as it may be, I've always been a much bigger fan of the MechCommander series than Warrior.) Really I just love the characters and storyline; I can spend hours browsing the encyclopedia that came with MC2...sigh. I wish more games had that kind of background depth. Anyway, as for the video, looks pretty damn sweet. I have no desire to own Crysis, but if I did, I'd check it out.

Hawk, check some of the books out, not always the best writing but it's neat to read the backstory fleshed out more than a timeline. WARNING, DO NOT READ The Mechwarrior Dark Ages novels, they are death.

I always wanted to play Mechcommander, seemed like the closest thing to video game version of the classic board game. Was it relatively faithful source material?

FNJ wrote:

hm. I seem to remember that mechassault had quite a strong single player campaign. and what's with this console tard business?

Mechassault was dumbed down to ridiculous levels, for example:

Walking your mech over a spinning icon of ammo magically reloads any weapons that require ammunition. As apposed to selecting ammo load outs before a mission.

Walking you mech over a spinning icon of a weapon magically upgrades your weapons, as apposed to repairing / upgrading your mech in between campaigns in the mech bay in other games.

Mech torsos could rotate 360 degrees so you can walk in any direction you please without altering speed, which really takes away from the illusion of piloting.

The story shit it self and had almost nothing to do with the core back story.

Don't get me wrong, it would have a been a fun little game if they hadn't associated it with Battletech, Battletech is not a fucking shmup, it's a tactical simulation damn it!

Don't read to much in to the console tard remark, just using ugly words to illustrate my fanboy anger.



Hawk, if you want to read any of them they're long out of print, but I hear Catalyst Games and classicbattletech.com are wrangling to get some new stuff printed, no idea on reprints however. I'd suggest ebay or used book stores, The Blood Of Kerensky Trilogy is good starting grounds, and the Twilight of the Clans series is pretty good too. Be forewarned, much like Star Wars novels, there's a lot of crap books in between the good ones.

FNJ wrote:

I suppose I could see how it would bother a battletech purist, but it was still a decent game on it's own merits, right?

If they would have called it Bigass Robo X Stomp A Thon Battle Royale Brought to you by Mountain Dew I would have nothing bad to say about it.

Knyte wrote:

Damn right. Real Battletech is trying to decide if you should use that one last ton of free weight for one more pack of Gauss Rifle Ammo, or to add one more heatsink so you can unload both ER PPCs in a single turn and being able to dissapate 90% of the heat instead of 82%..

I'm going to agree wholeheartedly in the hope that this serious, if not consider me burned.

OK finally got to watch it.

HOLY SHIT!

It looks fucking awesome, although I noticed that there doesn't appear to be a heads up display during the in cockpit sequences, and the small laser on the Elementals looks completely weird. If I had the money I'd be all over this.

HOLY SHIT FROTHING AT MOUTH

Hey remember how Fasa studios went under and the franchise got bartered off to the likes of Wizkidz and Microsoft? Remember the suckfest that ensued?

Tinker and Smith, a gaming company made up of former Fasa people, reacquired the rights to Battletech, and are rebooting the original mechwarrior simulation game!

Don't know all of the details but check the trailer of supposed in game action!



My favorite part is that it's pre clan Inner Sphere end of the Third Succession War era, SWEET!

I hope to god this doesn't end up being crap or vaporware.

Well from what I understand Fasa leased some Macross mecha designs from whoever owned them in the 80s, and whoever they got them from turned out to be in the wrong. So later when Harmony Gold got their filthy mits on Macross and turned it in to Robotech for America they started to sue Fasa over the mechs they had (mistakenly) ripped off. It caused a whole bunch of the classic mechs in Battletech to become unseen, meaning they were not allowed to be shown in any official artwork etc.

The people at Catalyst Games who run classicbattletech.com announced a while back that they had reached an agreement with whoever owned the rights to the so called unseen mechs a while back that turned out to be bunk, possibly due to Harmony Gold once again.

I'm not sure what the deal is with the Mechwarrior Reboot, but I did see a Warhammer in the trailer, which is the same mecha design as the Tomahawk in Robotech. Here compare.

Battletech's Warhammer.

Robotech's Tomahawk.


The chatter I've been paying half attention to seems to indicate that the upcoming Robotech Movie may have something to do with Harmony Gold shitting all over Battletech once again.

Personally I don't care if they pull all the old unseen mechs out and alter the game, but I can see it causing problems in relation to the games canon. More than half of the "classic" designs are the mis-licensed Macross / Robotech designs, so if you cut them out and replace them with different mechs then there's not gonna be a lot of mech types to choose from, and you can't throw clan mechs or new inner sphere mechs or old rebuilt Star League era mechs in because it takes place in like 3014 or something.

If anyone wants some a more in depth breakdown of the legal wranglings between Battletech and Robotech read this.

http://www.terrania.us/journal/2009/09/harmony-gold-vs-battletech-second.html