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Syd Lexia
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Title: Pop Culture Junkie
Joined: Jul 30 2005
Location: Wakefield, MA
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Remember the NES? Remember how it worked? Let me refresh you memory:
Step 1: Put cartridge in system.
Step 2: Turn system on.
Step 3: Press Start.
That was it. And if the game you wanted to play was already in the system, then you could cut out Step 1. Within 30 seconds of deciding you wanted to play video games, you'd actually be playing video games. Not anymore!
Now it's:
Step 1: Turn system on.
Step 2: Put game in system. With some systems, Steps 1 and 2 may be reversable.
Step 3: Wait for the console's OS to boot up. See a logo reminding you what console you're playing.
Step 4: Navigate through said OS and select "Play Game In System" from the annoying menu system.
Step 5: Wait for the game to load. See a logo reminding you what console you're playing once again.
Step 6: Stare at the logo for the game's publisher for 5-10 seconds.
Step 7: Stare at the logo for the game's developer for 5-10 seconds. This step may repeat a second and third time.
Step 8: Watch a cutscene reminding you what game you've selected, because you've probably forgotten by now. You can almost always skip this.
Step 9: Game checks to see if there's any DLC to load.
Step 10: Game checks to see if it connect to an online server, even though you haven't asked it to and aren't necessarily playing online.
Step 11: Press Start.
Why can't I just play a fucking game anymore? Christ.
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Ba'al
Title: Zerg Zergling
Joined: Mar 02 2008
Location: Uranus
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I kinda wish we could completely skip the publisher/dev logo at times, or even have it just like the second X-Men game on Genesis where it just throws you right into the game.
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Rydog
Title: Dragon Slayer
Joined: Aug 11 2009
Location: Massachusetts
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Right...plus with the wii, you may have to change your controller set-up a few different times during a session.
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Syd Lexia
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Title: Pop Culture Junkie
Joined: Jul 30 2005
Location: Wakefield, MA
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You may also need to check the batteries in your wireless controllers, and/or find them.
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Ba'al
Title: Zerg Zergling
Joined: Mar 02 2008
Location: Uranus
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I hate the little logo that keeps showing up in the top-left when your battery is going dead, it costed me a match against TD Mr. Sandman in POWii once. I'd rather just have the batteries go dead on me, than for it to do that for several days until finally dying.
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TARDISman
Title: Time Traveller
Joined: May 18 2009
Location: The End of Time
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Worst of it is when you buy one of those rechargable battery packs that never works! My 3rd party 360 cable doesn't even work when the damnable thing's plugged into the system!
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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Guitar Hero 3 was the worst offender ever for displaying logos of companies involved with the game.
As for games that used to do it in the past, NHL games for the Genesis used to make you watch a logo screen.
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Syd Lexia
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Title: Pop Culture Junkie
Joined: Jul 30 2005
Location: Wakefield, MA
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I think all SNES and Genesis games flashed the company logo when they loaded up.
SE-GA!
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Rydog
Title: Dragon Slayer
Joined: Aug 11 2009
Location: Massachusetts
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I liked the SEGAAAAAH though
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Douche McCallister
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Title: DOO-SHAY
Joined: Jan 26 2007
Location: Private Areas
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Isn't there a "boot up game on system power on" option. I know there is for PS3 
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
Joined: Jul 06 2007
Location: phoenix, az usa
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Isn't there a "boot up game on system power on" option. I know there is for PS3 |
i think the 360 has one as well. i dont believe the wii has one though.
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Ky-Guy
Title: Obscure Nintendo Gamer
Joined: Jul 19 2006
Location: Michigan
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Yeah, it can sometimes take forever to get a game started these days. That's what we get from going from cartridges to discs.
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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Syd,
You should do an article on video game startup time. From power on to first in game action. See where systems and vendors have taken us over the years.
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Ice2SeeYou
Title: Sexual Tyrannosaurus
Joined: Sep 28 2008
Location: South of Heaven
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Isn't there a "boot up game on system power on" option. I know there is for PS3 |
i think the 360 has one as well. i dont believe the wii has one though. |
Yes, the 360 does have that feature. But as far as I can tell, you can't set it to run the game from the harddrive if you've installed it. It just runs the disc. To play the game from the harddrive, you still have to go through the 360's menu and select it.
I prefer to run it from the harddrive nowadays, since it runs much quieter and I would think it's less stressful to the system (ie less chance of RROD). I've also heard that it reduces load times, although I haven't noticed a difference while playing Oblivion.
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Knyte
2010 SLF Tag Champ*
Title: Curator Of The VGM
Joined: Nov 01 2006
Location: Here I am.
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Now, would be the perfect time for another NeoGeo to come along. A no nonsense, no apalogies, hardcore game system, that doesn't pretend to be a "Home Entertainment System", nor a "Digitial Multimedia Interface", or any other buzzword bull shit. It just claims to be a hard core game system for hardcore gamers.
Media of choice: SSD memory cartridges. I mean if I can go to WalMart and buy a Jumpdrive with 8GBs of flash RAM memory for $17, how cheap is it to make 8GB of ROM memory? $1? .50? Slap that shit into a cartridge, and bam!
1. Faster than a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray disc.
2. Virtually unlimited storage compacity.
3. Better Copy Protection for the developers. Everyone has a CD/DVD (And, now many are getting) BluRay burners. How many people have a ROM imprinter? Thought so.
The console needs to worry about only four things:
1. Awesome Graphics & Sound
2. Good, Stong Processor(s)
3. Well designed controllers.
4. Internet/Network for multiplayer gaming.
You want to rent movies, browse the internet, and shop from home? Go use a computer. You want to play games, use the system. Hell, that should be the motto.
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
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| Knyte wrote: |
Now, would be the perfect time for another NeoGeo to come along. A no nonsense, no apalogies, hardcore game system, that doesn't pretend to be a "Home Entertainment System", nor a "Digitial Multimedia Interface", or any other buzzword bull shit. It just claims to be a hard core game system for hardcore gamers.
Media of choice: SSD memory cartridges. I mean if I can go to WalMart and buy a Jumpdrive with 8GBs of flash RAM memory for $17, how cheap is it to make 8GB of ROM memory? $1? .50? Slap that shit into a cartridge, and bam!
1. Faster than a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray disc.
2. Virtually unlimited storage compacity.
3. Better Copy Protection for the developers. Everyone has a CD/DVD (And, now many are getting) BluRay burners. How many people have a ROM imprinter? Thought so.
The console needs to worry about only four things:
1. Awesome Graphics & Sound
2. Good, Stong Processor(s)
3. Well designed controllers.
4. Internet/Network for multiplayer gaming.
You want to rent movies, browse the internet, and shop from home? Go use a computer. You want to play games, use the system. Hell, that should be the motto. |
What about: http://www.onlive.com/
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TARDISman
Title: Time Traveller
Joined: May 18 2009
Location: The End of Time
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| username wrote: |
| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Isn't there a "boot up game on system power on" option. I know there is for PS3 |
i think the 360 has one as well. i dont believe the wii has one though. |
Yes, the 360 does have that feature. But as far as I can tell, you can't set it to run the game from the harddrive if you've installed it. It just runs the disc. To play the game from the harddrive, you still have to go through the 360's menu and select it.
I prefer to run it from the harddrive nowadays, since it runs much quieter and I would think it's less stressful to the system (ie less chance of RROD). I've also heard that it reduces load times, although I haven't noticed a difference while playing Oblivion. |
It varies from game to game, games like The Last Remnant do run a lot smoother when the data's installed to the hard drive, but stuff like Halo 3 actually advises against installing the game to the hard drive.
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RIP Hacker 1993-2014
"Paint me like one of your French Squids" -My buddy on Relm vs Ultros. |
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Ice2SeeYou
Title: Sexual Tyrannosaurus
Joined: Sep 28 2008
Location: South of Heaven
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| TARDISman wrote: |
| Ice2SeeYou wrote: |
| username wrote: |
| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Isn't there a "boot up game on system power on" option. I know there is for PS3 |
i think the 360 has one as well. i dont believe the wii has one though. |
Yes, the 360 does have that feature. But as far as I can tell, you can't set it to run the game from the harddrive if you've installed it. It just runs the disc. To play the game from the harddrive, you still have to go through the 360's menu and select it.
I prefer to run it from the harddrive nowadays, since it runs much quieter and I would think it's less stressful to the system (ie less chance of RROD). I've also heard that it reduces load times, although I haven't noticed a difference while playing Oblivion. |
It varies from game to game, games like The Last Remnant do run a lot smoother when the data's installed to the hard drive, but stuff like Halo 3 actually advises against installing the game to the hard drive. |
I see. Thus far Oblivion is the only game I've tried it with. Oblivion was a launch title and has a shit-ton of load times, so I guess that could be part of the reason why there wasn't much improvement. Excellent game, though.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
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I'm with you Syd. I think the problem is, at some point, video game systems became multimedia platforms instead of just plain old video game systems. I don't know why it's so difficult to have a DVD player AND a PS3 instead of trying to cram it all into one system, then bundling Netflix subscriptions with Fallout 3. What the hell happened to those clear divisions of entertainment?
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Aqua Hedgehog
Joined: Nov 02 2008
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The only reason I ever use my XBox and Saturn is for the games. If I wanted to watch movies I could download them off Netflix or some torrent site, or even watch them on TV with a VCR or DVD player. I don't need a gaming console just to watch movies and TV, IT'S A FUCKING USELESS FEATURE.
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Ky-Guy
Title: Obscure Nintendo Gamer
Joined: Jul 19 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 1418
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| Knyte wrote: |
Now, would be the perfect time for another NeoGeo to come along. A no nonsense, no apalogies, hardcore game system, that doesn't pretend to be a "Home Entertainment System", nor a "Digitial Multimedia Interface", or any other buzzword bull shit. It just claims to be a hard core game system for hardcore gamers.
Media of choice: SSD memory cartridges. I mean if I can go to WalMart and buy a Jumpdrive with 8GBs of flash RAM memory for $17, how cheap is it to make 8GB of ROM memory? $1? .50? Slap that shit into a cartridge, and bam!
1. Faster than a CD/DVD/Blu-Ray disc.
2. Virtually unlimited storage compacity.
3. Better Copy Protection for the developers. Everyone has a CD/DVD (And, now many are getting) BluRay burners. How many people have a ROM imprinter? Thought so.
The console needs to worry about only four things:
1. Awesome Graphics & Sound
2. Good, Stong Processor(s)
3. Well designed controllers.
4. Internet/Network for multiplayer gaming.
You want to rent movies, browse the internet, and shop from home? Go use a computer. You want to play games, use the system. Hell, that should be the motto. |
I second this post. The NeoGeo has gained a large cult following and lasted well into the early 2000s because of that. Well, that, and the fact that the games also worked in their own arcade cabinets.
Honestly, I think Nintendo should go back to cartridges for their next console. In fact, if you remember the PC-Engine/Turbografx-16, the Hu-Cards were considerably smaller than the SNES or Sega Genesis cartridges, yet their performance were comparable. What if Nintendo did something like that? Their cartridges would be barely any larger than an SD Card, yet it could have the capabilities of a PS3 disc.
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| iPhone games are what you play when you can't get at actual games. You know, like how sometimes alcoholics drink mouthwash. |
| Lexiabot9000 wrote: |
| Your love life will be happy and harmonious if you stick to masturbating. |
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JRA
Joined: Sep 17 2007
Location: The Opium Trail
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Honestly, I think Nintendo should go back to cartridges for their next console. In fact, if you remember the PC-Engine/Turbografx-16, the Hu-Cards were considerably smaller than the SNES or Sega Genesis cartridges, yet their performance were comparable. What if Nintendo did something like that? Their cartridges would be barely any larger than an SD Card, yet it could have the capabilities of a PS3 disc. |
and its not as if the Wii can play DVD's anyway.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
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Don't get me started on the Wii. Talk about useless gimmicks and gadgets.
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Ky-Guy
Title: Obscure Nintendo Gamer
Joined: Jul 19 2006
Location: Michigan
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| JRA wrote: |
| Ky-Guy wrote: |
Honestly, I think Nintendo should go back to cartridges for their next console. In fact, if you remember the PC-Engine/Turbografx-16, the Hu-Cards were considerably smaller than the SNES or Sega Genesis cartridges, yet their performance were comparable. What if Nintendo did something like that? Their cartridges would be barely any larger than an SD Card, yet it could have the capabilities of a PS3 disc. |
and its not as if the Wii can play DVD's anyway. |
True, the Wii couldn't play DVDs. Hell, it couldn't even play regular CDs.
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| iPhone games are what you play when you can't get at actual games. You know, like how sometimes alcoholics drink mouthwash. |
| Lexiabot9000 wrote: |
| Your love life will be happy and harmonious if you stick to masturbating. |
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Aqua Hedgehog
Joined: Nov 02 2008
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The Wii is geared more toward casual gamers, obviously, so it's not my thing. And I'm still waiting for a game console that could surpass the power of a PC and not have annoying-ass gimmics like a DVD player.
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