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Posted: May 18 2009 06:39 am

See, that's what I thought. I see now that your "epic fail" was directed at the poster, and not an agreement of his assessment of the movie's ending lol. Misunderstanding on my part.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: May 18 2009 08:07 am

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But why all the hate for the T3 ending? Its been years since I've seen it, but I don't remember it being particularly bad. Skynet nukes the world, John starts the resistance, and sets the stage for Salvation, right? Or am I forgetting something?

I went into it in another thread, but mostly, I hate it for kicking T2's ending square in the balls.

Posted: May 18 2009 11:29 am

To be honest I always found the end of T2 the confusing one. I loved the movie, but if you think about it the ending would have made no sense if destroying the arm and chip stopped the war from happening. If that had actually been the case than it creates a paradox. Terminator 3 made sense to me, since destroying the arm and chip didn't fix anything.

Posted: May 18 2009 05:25 pm

I'm torn on the T3 issue.

I thought T2 was the perfect story with a perfect ending. But I fucking love Terminator, so I'm glad they made more Terminator movies.

Posted: May 18 2009 08:02 pm

jackfrost wrote:

To be honest I always found the end of T2 the confusing one. I loved the movie, but if you think about it the ending would have made no sense if destroying the arm and chip stopped the war from happening. If that had actually been the case than it creates a paradox. Terminator 3 made sense to me, since destroying the arm and chip didn't fix anything.

IIRC, doesn't Arnold lose an arm in the refinery during his battle with the T-1000 and that's never destroyed? I believe that's the case, and it was the basis for early T3 scripts.

The T2 ending kinda makes sense. As long as T-800 does exist, the T-800 *could* exist, because someone could dismantle the technology and copy it, thus leading to the eventual creation of SkyNet.

There's another explanation that's harder to explain, but basically, it's that once you displace yourself from your own time, you will continue to exist even if you prevent yourself from being born, because it's possible for multiple realities to exist over each other. I could get into further, but 24 is on.

Posted: May 18 2009 08:41 pm

It just doesn't make sense to me that the technology that was supposed to lead to the creation of SkyNet would be something created by SkyNet itself in the future. If SkyNet was not going to exist without the remains of the T-800, than I propose that SkyNet and the T-800 should have never existed in this reality at all unless there was no way to prevent the war. The T-800 remains may have lead to an alternate time line that changed the cause of the war. If that was the case then destroying them would merely eliminate that time line and the cause of the war would revert back to what it was going to be in the first place. My way of thinking is that for any Terminators being sent from the future to exist in the present, than the war was going to happen no matter what, which is pretty much what Terminator 3 focused on.

Now I have gone and confused myself. I hate thinking about time travel.

Posted: May 18 2009 08:48 pm

Well, then your problems with T2 are deeper than you think.

If you can only see a singular reality, then the movie should end once Dyson is dead and his research is destroyed, because under your thinking, can no longer exist and therefore Terminators can't exist.

Also, the future is still altered in T3. The T-X assassinates future Connor lieutenants when she can't find Connor himself.

Posted: May 18 2009 09:14 pm

I can subscribe to the parallel universe theory to some extent, and I am willing to accept that the events of the Terminator and T2 could still exist even if the war was prevented. Even so I still don't believe the initial cause of the war could have stemmed from the remains of the T-800 though. It reminds me of that scene in Monkey Island 4 where you receive items from a future version of yourself, and then immediately give them back to the past version of yourself. That was meant to be a joke in the game, but the idea is the same. They shouldn't exist, as the origin has to do with something that never should have happened in the first place.

In case you are unsure of the scene I am referencing in Monkey Island 4:

In any case debating time travel is like debating whether a unicorn or a leprechaun would win a fight. There really isn't much point to it.

Posted: May 18 2009 09:23 pm

Austin Powers: Goldmember had a bad ending, in my opinion. It was basically a movie within a movie.

Posted: May 19 2009 11:21 pm

I'm not sure if there are many anime fans on here. Berserk is a great series, and I still think it's amazing but the ending just drove me crazy. After such a good story, it just ends so abruptly, I was practically shaking my screen. You would know exactly what I'm talking about if you have seen it.

Posted: May 20 2009 02:56 am

TopShelf wrote:

I'm not sure if there are many anime fans on here. Berserk is a great series, and I still think it's amazing but the ending just drove me crazy. After such a good story, it just ends so abruptly, I was practically shaking my screen. You would know exactly what I'm talking about if you have seen it.

You should start a new topic in television. In return, I'll post there.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: May 20 2009 01:29 pm

It seems someone agrees with me about the ending.

...check out #1.

Posted: May 20 2009 03:52 pm

That pretty much hit every point that made no sense in each of the movies. Very well thought out article.

Posted: May 21 2009 11:33 am

Knyte wrote:

Matrix Revolution
The Village (In fact, just about every M.Night folm after 6th Sense)
Return of the Jedi (Really, it's very stupid when you think about it.)

Hahaha, I love how you elaborate on all of those except the final Matrix film. If you've seen it, you don't need any explanation to understand why. Reloaded's ending sucked too. I hate the Architect. He looks like Colonel Sanders attempting to teach an English class while saying random words he recently learned from a dictionary.

I hate the ending for High Tension. Throughout the film we experience gruesome, intense murders while the main character is on the run. But then we find out SHE IS THE KILLER!!! I felt cheated at the end. They could've ended it much better.

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest pissed me off as well. The entire audience awaits a resolution to the story, but instead we get a cliff hanger ending that made us wait for the next film. It was Matrix Reloaded all over again, dammit! (Although the film was much better for two reasons: 1) No pretentious Architect characters, and 2) That bad-ass squid-like monster Kraken.)

Posted: May 21 2009 04:05 pm

I'm going to have to go with the Super Mario Bros. movie. It totally promised another one at the end and it never came!

A movie who's ending I really hated was AI. I found it so depressing. Seriously, it made me want to die.

Posted: May 22 2009 12:48 am

As far as T3 went, I know it kinda crapped on the spirit of the ending of T2, but then there was always something I didn't agree with. Then I read this website I'm linking below and pretty much agreed with it one hundred percent. It's definitely on the nerdy, overanalytical side, but meh.

http://www.mjyoung.net/time/termina3.html

Posted: Jun 05 2009 11:01 am

The worst ending I've had to endure has to be Artificial Intelligence. I think I tried to get up at least three times and had to sit back down because it just didn't end! First the blue fairy, then the aliens on the zero aerodynamics ship, then the "happy yet disturning" ending. Ugh, too dense, too long!

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The Mist

To be fair, the movie itself was better than I thought it would be. The atmosphere was well done. But the ending....well, bad, dunno if that's the word, but horrifying and depressing.

But considering the way the book ended, and how that ending would not work well in a movie, they had to think of something, and a cliche` happy hollywood ending would have been dumb. So I'll let it slide, since I probably couldn't have thought of anything better.

Title: Midnight Scientist Joined: Dec 07 2006 Posts: 518

Someone mentioned Sunshine, and I don't think they meant the ending, but the weird horror-movie turn it takes. It starts out as a psychological thriller and then BAM! Slasher scary shit. The actual ending wasn't bad, though.

High Tension had one the worst twist endings ever and was totally fucking stupid. What's even worse is that they just needed a little bit of good film making to explain some of the shit that goes down.

The Forgotten. I actually really, really liked this movie until HAHA MOTHERFUCKING ALIENS. SUCK IT. This pissed me off so much. I honestly wanted to learn what happened to that cunt's kid and you give me aliens. Christ...

The Number 23, but I won't get into that cause you probably already know why.

The remake of the Planet of the Apes. Most confusing movie ending ever? Possibly. I can get you wanting to make an ending as symbolic and memorable as the original, but you actually have to put some fucking thought into it.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

I have one movie that I CANNOT believe hasn't been mentioned yet.

Eragon.

That movie sucked so hard it made gay prostitutes look like amateurs.

How long was it, anyway? It felt like half-an-hour to me.

And the ending sucked harder then the actual movie. And THAT is saying something.

Posted: Jun 12 2009 07:58 pm

kenthegod wrote:

Someone mentioned Sunshine, and I don't think they meant the ending, but the weird horror-movie turn it takes. It starts out as a psychological thriller and then BAM! Slasher scary shit. The actual ending wasn't bad, though.

Sunshine is up there in my top 3 movies of all time, but I have to agree. If you watch the deleted scenes though, they cut out a lot of Pinbacker's (aka scary monster guy) lines that gave the whole thing a bit more context and tied it together.

The mood swing is weird. ...But now that I'm thinking about it, it does have a "Heart of Darkness" feel to it...the long journey that gets crazier and crazier and ends up in absolute insanity. So you know what, I take back what I said and I think the mood change actually works. (Although I really, REALLY wish they had kept Pinbacker's deleted scenes; it really did add a lot to the character and the plot.)

Title: Midnight Scientist Joined: Dec 07 2006 Posts: 518

I haven't seen the deleted scenes, but I see what you mean about the Heart of Darkness similarity. I still think it could have been handled better, though. I think it was just too sudden. They needed to take a little more time to ease into it, as it felt forced.

Posted: Jun 13 2009 03:51 pm

kenthegod wrote:

I haven't seen the deleted scenes, but I see what you mean about the Heart of Darkness similarity. I still think it could have been handled better, though. I think it was just too sudden. They needed to take a little more time to ease into it, as it felt forced.

I can see where you're coming from there. I think they way they *started* it was actually very good...I mean you don't even know Pinbacker is on the ship until the computer inadvertently lets it slip to Capa that there's a 5th person aboard. And even then they don't have him suddenly jump out and start chasing people; Capa has to go find him and the way he gets stuck in the airlock actually works pretty well I think.

After that though...yeah. Stalking Cassie in the dark and sneaking up and stabbing Corrie were both a little too horror cliche cheesy for a movie this smart (and this focused on something other than scares.) I understand *why* he wants to go around killing everyone, but you're right, it should have been handled much more....gently is the only word I can think of. I guess Danny Boyle had a flashback or two during the filming of those scenes, and thought he was still directing 28 Days Later. Laughing

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the new black chrismas and prom nights endings suck their are a crap load of horror movies endings i hate but those are the frist 2 that come to mind

Posted: Jun 18 2009 04:31 am

^ Agreed, horror movies tend to suck badly. Event Horizon was a very good movie, but the ending was just so stupidly cheesy. I mean, really? Sam Neil HAD to be in the rescue guy's suit? And then it was a DREAM? No thank you.

I'll add the very end of Terminator: Salvation to this too. Just saw it tonight and was pretty happy with it (not amazing, but entertaining and certainly not boring), but the end...give me a break! Rolling Eyes

*SPOILER ALERT FOR T:S*

Seriously? The machine-who-is-a-man gives up his heart for John? That kind of cheap symbolism worked the first couple times they did it, back in the 1600s. Now, not so much. I actually quite approve of his character arc overall, but that last bit was just too much.

I also like that a) they just happen to have a surgeon there who was qualified to do a heart replacement surgery, and the facilities to do so, and that b) John didn't even TRY to put up a TOKEN protest. Granted he was bleeding out and all, but its customary to have the hero at least try to prevent someone from giving their lives for him. I mean c'mon. He just NODS at him, like, "yes. Yes I WILL take your heart, and you WILL die so that I may live!" Oy.

And may I also add that John should have waited just a TEENY bit longer before blowing the HUGE NUCLEAR DEVICE that was RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR HELICOPTER? Granted, he himself survived two chopper crashes in the space of like 72 hours and that might have made him a little cocky, but even so...what about the fallout radiation? Unless they chopper was coated with the same magic stuff as Indiana Jones' refrigerator, they would all be toast. This may be nitpicky, but when they show the heroes' chopper ON TOP OF A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION, not even flying away from it...that stretches credibility even for this kind of action movie. Giant robots, I will buy. Sentient space station that hates humans, okay. John Connor taking down a road robot and turning it into his own personal motorcycle, sure. But a magic nuke proof helicopter that survives the explosion with its doors open no less? No dice.