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UsaSatsui wrote:

The 4th Spyro the Dragon game was one of the most soul-crushing games I've ever played. My wife and I loved the series, right up until then.

Which one is that, Enter the Dragonfly? It's barely even fucking playable because it's just so glitchy and the controls suck. It's also really short, but honestly here it's a good thing.

To me, the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro franchises were awesome on PSX, good enough on GBA, and everything else is total crap.

And for the record, I've replayed Majora's Mask much, MUCH more often than Ocarina of Time. I really like the 3 days gimmick, makes every playthrough at least slightly different.
Of course if you don't even give it a chance because "it's not OoT" you won't like the game Razz

Posted: Jul 20 2011 12:23 am

lavalarva wrote:

To me, the Crash Bandicoot and Spyro franchises were awesome on PSX, good enough on GBA, and everything else is total crap.

I enjoyed the GC crash, Wrath of Cortex. Felt like it was the last one to actually be a crash game, granted Naughty Dog didn't make it.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 02:04 am

I was actually disappointed in Metal Gear Solid 4 and I love the Metal gear series.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 02:50 am

The second Toe Jam & Earl, Panic on Funkotron.

I mean, it's an alright and goofy little platformer, in fact I do like it.

But it just strays so much from the formula from that made me like TJ&E in the first place that it's overall disappointing.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 02:55 am

Andrew Man wrote:

The second Toe Jam & Earl, Panic on Funkotron.

I mean, it's an alright and goofy little platformer, in fact I do like it.

But it just strays so much from the formula from that made me like TJ&E in the first place that it's overall disappointing.

i played the sequel first and the original second (thats how i discovered them on the SEGA Channel) so im a bigger fan of the second one vs the first one. dont get me wrong, they are both great games, but the second one was more accessible than the first one.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 03:11 am

Virtually every Sonic game that wasn't on the Genesis.

Majora's Mask was a disappointment for me. I found it kind of annoying, and it almost seemed more limited in scope than Ocarina of Time. I'm not saying the game sucked, I just got bored with it very quickly, and it was a big letdown after OoT for me. And the whole masks thing was kind of stupid...half of them were pointless and doing all the swaps got you jackshit.

I like Super Mario 2 more than the original so I don't consider it a disappointment. I think it's a solid diversion from the rest of the series; it's more challenging and not nearly as repetitive as the original. Mario 3 obviously destroys them both, though.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 03:47 am

Zelda II, to most of the world, but not so much to me personally. I liked Zelda II, but still liked the first one more.

Mega Man 5 and 6. They weren't terrible, but just more of the same ol' same ol'. After IV they just seemed like 'enough of the 8 bit Mega Mans already'.

Not that it's that disappointing, but Blaster Master 2 wasn't as good as the original. I still like it, but definately a little bit of a let down from the first one.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 04:22 am

Greg the White wrote:

Dead to Rights sequel

This so much. That was a good game, and it had a lot of potential. The sequel also looked totally fucking amazing until John Woo's production company dropped out. Then it all went to shit.

Bioshock 2 was one of the greatest disappointments for me in terms of a sequel. I'll forgive them when Infinite comes out and rocks my life.

And yeah. Final Fantasy X was the start of the downfall. I liked it, and XIII, but XII was atrocious and even those two didn't hold a candle to any of the games that came out before them.

I'm pleasantly surprised that more people haven't said Super Mario World 2. I prefer it to the original, though they are entirely different games.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 04:55 am

Why does everyone hate on Doom 3? It was entertaining and very atmospheric!

Shit Duke Nukem Forever wouldn't have been as panned if it came out when Doom 3 did, the only reason it sucks is it feels like its from the same era as Doom 3 just extremely late and maybe a little more polished visually.

Back on topic, I never enjoyed any of the newer Mechwarriors PC games as much as MW1 and MW2 and MW: Mercs. MW3 made some steps in the right direction (improved graphics and control) but stepped sideways and directly in to some shit at the same time (idiotic mech assignment, clanners having inner sphere rides and vice versa, stupid AI, retarded plot), and the series afterwards Mechwarrior 4 Vengeance and Mercenaries just fell flat on their faces. They just don't feel like mech simulators, and the voice acting is cheesy in a bad way, and the graphics seemed to feel cheaper/chintzier even though they were of a newer generation.

Don't get me started on the Abomination that is Microsoft's Mechassault, would have been fine if it was called Giant Stompy Robot Fun Spoldey Time for Xbox, but it's a terrible bastard child of Battletech.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 06:32 am

Perfect Dark Zero
Banjo & Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Earthworm Jim 3D
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon
Mortal Kombat 3
Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, Guitar Hero: World Tour and Guitar Hero 5
Sonic & The Black Knight (Secret Rings, while not perfect, was a fun game. Instead of taking that engine and refining it, they started over from scratch for no good reason)

Posted: Jul 20 2011 09:02 am

Starfox 2 for SNES because it got announced but was never made!

SSB 2 & 3, it's not like i'm able to enjoy them just as much as the first but thats the thing. They seem unneccessary. The graphics are still silly, even on the Wii, gameplay's the same, music's the same, everything's the same except for some adventure mode that sucks ass and a truckload of trophys i don't care for.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 09:07 am

If you think Melee and Brawl are the same, I'd like meet your crack dealer. He has the best crack. Also, the original SSB sucks, not Melee. There are what, like 4 characters in Smash Brothers? The roster sucks. You might as well say World Warrior is better than SSF2.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 09:16 am

Take away the final smash and all that unneccassary extras they added and you got the same fucking game. To me Smash Bros is not about an Adventure Mode or some gimmickey shit, it's about the versus matches with my friends and in that case there is little to none difference between the three games.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 09:54 am

Um... the balances are completely different in each? Jigglypuff's Rest is ridiculous in SSB, less so in Melee, and useless in Brawl. Also aerial combat is completely nerfed in Brawl. All Brawl needed to be was Melee with more guys and no Wave Dash. Instead, they changed many, many things in the engine that make it awful and less fun.

If you really don't notice any differences, then Brawl should be your favorite because it has the most characters, and as far as you can tell, they're all good.

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Blackout wrote:

Why does everyone hate on Doom 3? It was entertaining and very atmospheric!

It was very entertaining and atmospheric for the first half hour or so, then it just got insanely repititive, with back-spawning enemies, samey corridors, pop scares, and boring weapons. I'm not in the camp saying it had to be all "Insane shooter with 10,000 enemies per level," but it was one of those games that had me hyped playing it at first, with the enthusiasm just going dead at about hour one. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, though. It's far from horrible, it's just that it felt like id has been lacking a creative spark since Romero left and they brought us Quake 2.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 11:11 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

Also aerial combat is completely nerfed in Brawl. All Brawl needed to be was Melee with more guys and no Wave Dash.

Which is why Marth isn't the God of Death in Brawl.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

Syd Lexia wrote:

Banjo & Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts

I saw this and nearly cried. It's so true... Although I'm one of the few who enjoyed it, once you took away how awfully different it was and treated it as a different game entirely.

And I ended up making a vehicle that resembled a penis and a seperate "vagina" ring. Plus, once you drove the penis through the ring, you could ejaculate fire. That alone made it worth it.

Fighter_McWarrior wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

Also aerial combat is completely nerfed in Brawl. All Brawl needed to be was Melee with more guys and no Wave Dash.

Which is why Marth isn't the God of Death in Brawl.

Fuck Marth. That is all.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 11:52 am

Blackout wrote:

Why does everyone hate on Doom 3? It was entertaining and very atmospheric!

I have to agree! I've brought it up before, just ignore the Doom origins and it alone is a very good and ambitious game, much like how Dead Space is today. It even is more connected to the Doom franchise then the movie with the Rock... You actually go to hell in it!

Posted: Jul 20 2011 12:04 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

If you really don't notice any differences, then Brawl should be your favorite because it has the most characters, and as far as you can tell, they're all good.

I prefer Melee, for the simple reason that i played it the most.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 01:14 pm

Turok 2 - yeah, it looked awesome, but it wasn't as fun as the first.

Race Driver: Grid - Race Driver 3 is one of my favorite games and this sequel just doesn't deliver. RD3 is way more fun, and easier to drive, with a racing wheel peripheral while Grid is damn near impossible with one. Too Need For Speed arcade-y.

Final Fantasy Tactics: Advance 1 & 2 - Wow, annoying, and sometimes poorly worded, rules that I have to obey but the enemy can freely ignore coupled with leveled enemies and a calendered mission system. No, thanks.

X-Men 2 (Genesis) - went from the first game with poor hit detection/ swarming enemies, but tons of personality/atmosphere to an incredibly bland experience.

KOTOR 2 - what a huge let down. I can't stand it when people claim this one is superior, or the characters were better. Fie on them, says I!

Oblivion - After Morrowind, full of easily distinguished areas, lots of unique locales, interesting back story and fun quests (but hideous character models, thank goodness for the mods), Oblivion was boring, generic, sectioned-off, and had annoying enemy leveling. To say nothing of the endless, cookie-cutter Oblivion Gates. You suck, Todd Howard. Seriously, walling-off the cities is a huge immersion killer. I get that the consoles can't handle it, but it should have been removed from the PC version (along with the retarded interface).

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

Etch wrote:

Turok 2 - yeah, it looked awesome, but it wasn't as fun as the first.

The second had better weapons, less fog and at least attempted a story. The original is barely memorable.

Joined: Apr 09 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3112

Oblivion only got fun for me when I kicked up the difficulty, and just spent all of my time in the woods, hunting. Easy to just get lost doing that on a rainy day. Yeah, though, it was poo otherwise. It came off as more of a tech demo for me, when games of that time were developing graphically to what they are now.

Condemned 2 went from "sequel improving upon everything" to Condemned, to turning into "Why am I shooting hadoukens at lame plot devices?" halfway through.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 07:14 pm

I also like the original F-Zero best. The N64 game and Gamecube game are good,
no doubt, but the SNES F-Zero kicks more ass then all the other ones. Gameplay and style are just perfect.
I like that you can only chose between 4 gliders, because you really have to get to know every glider, their strengths and weaknesses.
You don't have the perfect glider for every circuit and if you want to finish all the cups on Master difficulty have to be perfect with at least one of them (you probably end up using Fire Stingray, if you are smart).

Posted: Jul 20 2011 08:47 pm

Slayer1 wrote:

Blackout wrote:

Why does everyone hate on Doom 3? It was entertaining and very atmospheric!

I have to agree! I've brought it up before, just ignore the Doom origins and it alone is a very good and ambitious game, much like how Dead Space is today. It even is more connected to the Doom franchise then the movie with the Rock... You actually go to hell in it!

It was alright. I wouldn't call it ambitous, but it's pretty good.

Also, if the Hell levels weren't your favorite part of the game, you need your head examined.

Posted: Jul 20 2011 10:10 pm

I agree with Josh.

Turok 2 was much better than the original.