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2010 SLF Tag Champ Joined: Jun 07 2006 Posts: 12294

yeah, but that was all part of bane's plan. wasn't he the guy that unleashed all of the villians to begin with?

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

He did, but that in no way makes him Batman's equal.

Keep in mind, Batman has a code, something that Bond doesn't. Bond would outmanuever and probably kill Bane.

2010 SLF Tag Champ Joined: Jun 07 2006 Posts: 12294

Bane still outsmarted Batman. I could understand if Bane just happened across batman after a bunch of random fights broke out and defeated him, but Bane orchestrated the entire Arkham breakout to begin with, with the intentions of weakening Batman. The problem with Bane is that most people see him as the jacked up brute that later cannonology made him, and not for the cunning villain that he was originally made to be.

But yeah, I agree that Bond would probably kill Bane, but it would still be one hell of a fight.

Joined: Feb 16 2008 Posts: 832

Yeah, the animated serious turned Bane (even though I still absolutely love the series) into a growling madman, while in the Comics his cunning and intelligence rivaled that of Batman's. Here is the thing about Batman and Bond, Bond may not have a code and Batman does, but Batman wouldn't need to kill Bane.

I've always thought that Bond is kind of like bad villains. They want to destroy the world because they couldn't ever hope to control it. Bond does what he does because he wouldn't ever be able to truly defeat his opponents.

Posted: Feb 22 2010 09:06 pm

How about a list that doesn't involve sorcery and magic wielding beings? Is that possible people? I mean, like it's been shown, Hans Gruber, the guy played by Jaiver Bardaim (sic) and so on, that they would be a helluva a lot more likely to kill Bond in a realistic setting versus Sauroman in the land's of "MODAHR". I'd say we make a list right here and now to counter this list and actually have it make sense.

2010 SLF Tag Champ Joined: Jun 07 2006 Posts: 12294

I'm down. so far we have the guy from no country for old men, Bane, Angus MacGuyver, Hans Greuber, Hannibal Lecter. Thats five.

Posted: Feb 22 2010 09:13 pm

FNJ wrote:

Mac Guyver should totally go against Bond.

I like this idea. My money would be on McGuyver though. Bond is resourceful and suave, but Mac is *street smart* and resourceful...I think he wins.

2010 SLF Tag Champ Joined: Jun 07 2006 Posts: 12294

I've always wondered who would win if The Hulk went up against MacGuyver. I mean, MacGuyver could make a proton cannon out of a pancake and some cinder blocks, but Hulk could just smash whatever he makes.

Posted: Feb 23 2010 12:54 am

FNJ wrote:

I've always wondered who would win if The Hulk went up against MacGuyver. I mean, MacGuyver could make a proton cannon out of a pancake and some cinder blocks, but Hulk could just smash whatever he makes.

Hmmm. Interesting question. I guess it would come down to, could Mac be fast enough, and hide well enough, to create and employ whatever Hulk-busting device he comes up with, vs Hulk's superior size and speed pulverizing him first.

Once again I think my money would be on Mac. I think he's cool-headed and smart enough to outsmart Hulk's white hot, blinding rages.

Posted: Feb 23 2010 12:55 am

HULK SMASH!!!

thats it, dead mcguyver

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

You know who would be a kickass Bond villian?

or

Posted: Feb 23 2010 01:05 pm

^ You sir are onto something.

Posted: Feb 23 2010 01:55 pm

Bond can beat anyone, because that's how he's written.

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

To me, it's not about beating Bond. It's about finding someone who is his worthy opponent.

Hans Gueber, Mola Ram, Mr. Potter, and Javier Bardem match up differently to Bond in so many ways, but they definately give Bond a run for his money.

Personally, I already think my list far surpasses that shitty list on the other site. At least I put effort into calculating the match up.

Posted: Feb 24 2010 02:58 pm

Bond's primary strengths are:
-Intelligence/Resourcefulness
-Access to cool gadgets
-Physical fitness/prowess (being that he's a trained government agent)

So you need someone who can match him on at least two of those criteria, such as Rambo.

--Rambo's probably not as "smart" as Bond, but equally resourceful (especially if the fight takes place in a jungle or desert setting rather than an indoor/urban setting.
--Rambo doesn't have as many cool gadgets, but a 12-inch knife is about as cool a gadget as you'll find.
--In a hand to hand fight, I'd say a grizzled special forces guy beats a crafty agent. And Rambo's far more ripped than any James Bond has ever been.

Posted: Feb 24 2010 04:56 pm

john matrix would kick bond's ass

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Nice comparison Ice, but Rambo wasn't really a bad guy. So if they fought eachother, it would be a lose-lose situation.

2010 SLF Tag Champ Joined: Jun 07 2006 Posts: 12294

not really. rambo is a military man. if the military says "hey rambo, we need you for one more mission again. you know you're a killer ect.ect.ect again" he'll do it.

Posted: Feb 25 2010 12:44 am

and USA > UK.

lets see what that starts

Posted: Feb 25 2010 01:35 am

The only people Bond can not kill are the ones he can not come up with a good pun for.

Posted: Feb 25 2010 01:42 pm

Doddsino wrote:

Nice comparison Ice, but Rambo wasn't really a bad guy. So if they fought eachother, it would be a lose-lose situation.

Ah, good point. Although in Rambo 3 he was fighting with the Taliban.....

Posted: Feb 26 2010 12:31 am

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

Doddsino wrote:

Nice comparison Ice, but Rambo wasn't really a bad guy. So if they fought eachother, it would be a lose-lose situation.

Ah, good point. Although in Rambo 3 he was fighting with the Taliban.....

Yeah but they were the good guys then.