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Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

Logan wrote:

JoshWoodzy wrote:

There is a lot of potential in it, no normal person would disagree with that.

Yeah, potential to be one of the biggest piece of shit failures in the entire history of gaming.

You know what I was saying clearly, because you cut my quote in half. Don't be a turd.

Posted: Jun 16 2013 06:13 pm

Does XBO have a chance? Yes, yes it does. I mean look at XBox in Japan. The XBox 360 is, completely and thoroughly, a failed platform in Japan. I'm pretty sure there have been weeks that Game Boy Advance outsold it. Despite this, it still gets some pretty cool Japan-only exlusives. Most famously, some of the Cave shmups.

The point is this: gamers tend to go where the games are. If XBO can get some cool exclusives, it can stay in the game.

FUN FACT: Although 360 is generally portrayed as the "winner" of the Gen 7 console wars by American media and social media, it is actually #3 in worldwide sales.

I don't really have an additional point, it's just an interesting fact.

Posted: Jun 17 2013 06:23 am

JoshWoodzy wrote:

There is a lot of potential in it, no normal person would disagree with that. Unfortunately, that potential is being squandered by the system having shitty and unnecessary capabilities and policies that favor retailers over consumers. Simple as that.

I look forward to see how its extended functionality pans out, but it didn't help that almost none of it was advertised well to the people who were paying attention.

ALSO:

Despite the minor flame war in the comments pointing out that using PCs/devkits as demos for consoles is allegedly standard practice, that the PCs in question are likely far more advanced than the console's confirmed specifications is questionable at best.

Posted: Jun 17 2013 04:09 pm

Microsoft is taking a risk here, and it will probably pay off. They will bring it to people's attention, and eventually non-gamers will probably end up being their biggest customers. I figure it will take a little while for it to really catch, but chances are it will. In the process they will also introduce non-gamers to the newer video games. Seriously, they will be able to advertise this thing however they want with all the functions it has.

Posted: Jun 17 2013 05:06 pm

Looks like they're already trying to, but they still can't find the right words.

Quote:

"We're over-delivering value against other choices I think consumers can get. Any modern product these days you look at it [and] $499 isn't a ridiculous price point. We're delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think they're going to love it when they use it."

Competitor Sony will offer its PlayStation 4 at $400 this holiday season, but Mattrick believes consumers will choose Xbox One for its suite of exclusive services and applications like an improved Xbox Live, as well as Skype, Twitch TV, SmartGlass, and Kinect.

Last I checked, extra services don't sell game systems, games do. Those things might sell tablets or phones, but not something I would primarily use something other than a mouse and keyboard for.

Posted: Jun 17 2013 06:23 pm

It seems like maybe they shouldn't try to sell it as a gaming console and try a different direction.

Sony probably could have afforded to lower the price of the PS4 another $100, because even if they end up taking a bit of a loss it would seem worth it if they could bury Microsoft's Xbox division.

Personally, I don't like the whole idea of having Kinect hooked up constantly. Call me paranoid, but if the government can spy on us using our cell phones who's to say they couldn't do the same with Kinect? I don't think I could relax with that fucker in myy house staring at me 24/7.

Posted: Jun 19 2013 09:01 am

Quote:

Mattrick believes consumers will choose Xbox One for its suite of exclusive services and applications like an improved Xbox Live, as well as Skype, Twitch TV, SmartGlass, and Kinect.

I have something that already has more/better than that and can play games too: it's called a PC.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/06/19/xbox-one-80-microsoft-reverses-xbox-one-drm-features/

LOL.

"Microsoft has announced an almost full reversal of the controversial digital rights management features built into the Xbox One. The console, launching later this year, will no longer require an online connection, or need to ping the Microsoft servers every 24 hours to hang on to life. It will also now play discs like any regular console and no longer place restrictions on trading games. There will also be no regional restrictions."

Posted: Jun 19 2013 06:17 pm

Things just got supremely real.

Now Nintendo is literally the last holdout on the regional restrictions.

Posted: Jun 19 2013 06:38 pm

Anybody else annoyed at Microsoft's smug marketing of the Xbox One?

That being said, I might just buy both the Xbox One and Playstation 4 later this year.

Posted: Jun 19 2013 08:37 pm

Yeah I don't care what they say I'm still not buying one. If they can change that stuff with the system being this close to launch and maintain the same release date it means that it is probably somewhere in the software and not the hardware and could easily be patched right back in whenever they want.

Posted: Jun 19 2013 09:51 pm

I thought Xbox One was what the President gets to call his Xbox...

Posted: Jun 19 2013 10:38 pm

New Coke strategy, Microsoft?

Posted: Jun 20 2013 12:24 am

More like X-Box One-Eighty, amirite?

Posted: Jun 20 2013 12:44 am

Beach Bum wrote:

Yeah I don't care what they say I'm still not buying one. If they can change that stuff with the system being this close to launch and maintain the same release date it means that it is probably somewhere in the software and not the hardware and could easily be patched right back in whenever they want.

Agreed. I'm definitely going to wait awhile before even considering buying one because now after public outcry they might start being sneaky by implementing "features" after you've bought and paid for the console. To be such an enormous, innovative company they are acting like fucktards. What the hell could they be thinking?

Joined: Oct 19 2009 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1479

Milhouse wrote:

I thought Xbox One was what the President gets to call his Xbox...

MILHOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never leave us again.

Posted: Jun 20 2013 04:00 am

DarknessDeku wrote:

Anybody else annoyed at Microsoft's smug marketing of the Xbox One?

The Xbox One's remote library access and family sharing stuff were legit innovations, but barely anyone heard about them because Microsoft got too excited for their own ideas and stumbled on every single one. They have no one to blame but themselves and now we're not getting any of the good stuff they had, even though they shed all the bad.

Posted: Jun 20 2013 08:16 am

The-Excel wrote:

Things just got supremely real.

Now Nintendo is literally the last holdout on the regional restrictions.

Doesn't Sony have regional restrictions? It's just that Blu Ray has different regional classifications than past mediums, so US/Japan are one region?

Posted: Jun 20 2013 09:23 am

JohnnyBenz wrote:

Beach Bum wrote:

Yeah I don't care what they say I'm still not buying one. If they can change that stuff with the system being this close to launch and maintain the same release date it means that it is probably somewhere in the software and not the hardware and could easily be patched right back in whenever they want.

Agreed. I'm definitely going to wait awhile before even considering buying one because now after public outcry they might start being sneaky by implementing "features" after you've bought and paid for the console. To be such an enormous, innovative company they are acting like fucktards. What the hell could they be thinking?

Sony could do the same thing I imagine. But now that you don't have to be online, I don't see how they could force anything on to you so they may have just given up, hopefully.

As said, I really think if they handled this in a different manner it wouldn't have seemed like such a shit storm. Regardless, it's still $100 bucks more with inferior specs, I still think Sony will own launch, but this does pull Xbox above water for the first time since they announced the console.

Posted: Jun 21 2013 03:22 am

Yeah, the $100 difference here in the U.S. is huge and still a big reason why I'll be going with the PS4. It just sucks that people who live overseas in places where they use the Euro won't get the same deal.

Posted: Jun 21 2013 01:38 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

The-Excel wrote:

Things just got supremely real.

Now Nintendo is literally the last holdout on the regional restrictions.

Doesn't Sony have regional restrictions? It's just that Blu Ray has different regional classifications than past mediums, so US/Japan are one region?

The games are region free. The one exception is Persona 4 Arena.

Posted: Jun 21 2013 09:47 pm

I swear to God that I've heard Europeans say that Japanese/US games didn't work on their systems.

Posted: Jun 22 2013 09:28 am

I still don't get how MS can be so insistent that everything has to be centered around Kinect, despite the fact that most people I've heard from don't like it or don't want it. I guess they're trying to pull a Steve Jobs and sell people something they didn't know they needed, but it feels like how movie studios have been trying to shove 3-D down our throats for the last few years.

I don't want to flail my arms around in front of my TV. Hell, I don't want to even casually lift my arm. My thumbs work fine.

I don't want to talk/shout at my TV when I'm playing at night and my wife/kids are asleep.

I don't want the Xbox watching me when I'm doing the unholy things I do when I think no one's watching.

Posted: Jun 22 2013 10:18 am

Honestly, I don't know if Kinect is as bad as we want it to be.

It seems like it's going to be used more for voice-activated menus than anything else.

Posted: Jun 22 2013 11:50 am

I suppose it'd be kind of nifty to be able to say "HBO" and have it turn to HBO without you having to bring up the guide screen. But currently, my Xbox isn't even hooked up to a cable box, so I wouldn't benefit from any of that functionality.

Aside from the occasional voice command, I still think that using a remote is superior to saying something out loud every few seconds to change a channel or whatever. I guess it depends on the person, though.