A subject close to my heart, indeed.

Now, my understanding of things over there is that weed is a highly illegal substance, ranked with cocaine and pcp and other high-end man-made crap. I find that both shocking, and disturbing. I know most people have heard the "but weed comes from the Earth!" argument before, but it makes alot of sense to me. Weed is what it is, from its delicate unfurling after tenaciously pushing itself up through its soilent womb, to its glorious ending in a triumphant blaze and bubble, its just there, doin' its thing. Unlike coke or speed, being made up in some drug den by a whacked out junkie with some serious cognative disability for the express purpose of fucking you up.

Weed will affect different people in different ways, depending on thier personal brain chemistry, but I have never seen nor heard of anyone becoming violent or anything like that becuase s/he was stoned. It just doesnt do that to people. Weed is still illegal in all states but one here in Australia, but its waaaaay down the bottom of the substance hierarchy, and I believe that to be because while still classed as a drug, it is recognised that it certainly doesnt affect people with as much force both mentally and socially as MDMA, cocaine ect.

Bottom line, weed is a natural substance like many others that have proven effects like coffee, and nicotine. I think smoking it is a choice people should be allowed to make on thier own, without punishment.

Cannibis, I choose you!

Haha, ok. So is it the method or the substance itself that bothers you more?

There are lots of things that have to be prepared before they can be consumed. You dont just slug back naked coffee beans, they're crushed, you add water.. You have to burn that big hunk of meat before you stuff it in your face..

I bring up the old From The Earth thing to highlight the fact that the shit has been around for ages. Weed was weed way before man figured out what to do with it, which I think is an important fact to be considered when cannibis is being classified as a controlled substance, a catagory reserved for a list of drugs that is almost entirely man made. Things designed by man, specifically to fuck you up.

No dude, I dont think you should roll around in poison ivy. I'm not saying that everything else natural is fantastic just because I happen to think weed is, but when you compare it against its illegal neighbours, yeah, its a WHOLE lot fucking friendlier.

I see that you've a fairly concrete opinion on the matter, and I'm certainly not trying to fucking convert you or anything, especially not on your own site that I just joined haha. I just think weed is a choice every bit the same as drinking coffee or tea, and should be treated as such. Its social stigma in some cultures paints marijuana a far darker portrait than it deserves.

I hope thats cool with you dude, I'd like to avoid being judged a smear in your undies on my first fuckin' day!

This I understand perfectly. I dont judge natural or organic products on the whole purely on the basis of my knowledge that weed came outta the fuckin' ground. I just think when the subject of drugs and the choice of them comes about, I'm much happier with something the Earth has been spitting out for centuries, as opposed to some chemical goop cooked up by gangsters.

Syd Lexia wrote:

if people want to smoke something natural, I advocate that.

Syd Lexia wrote:

there's nothing remotely natural about smoking, no matter what you're smoking.

Heh, ok..

Syd Lexia wrote:

Pure tobacco isn't any worse for you than pure weed

Actually, it is, by a long shot.

Cannibis contains no nicotine. Nicotine as a standalone chemical is entirely lethal, and taken on its own, a little over a tablespoon would kill you real fuckin' dead, real fuckin' quick. Cannibis contains no such chemical.

Keeping on the subject of 'natural', human beings and most animals naturally create what are called "Endocannibinoids". It is these naturally present receptors that interact and moderate marijuana's psychoactive effects when ingested. The inherently present cannibinoids in both plant and human communicate, rather than there being any new kind of pathway forced into your brain, unlike tobacco/nictone which creates pathways that physically tell you to feel bad when a regular dose is not supplied.

Syd Lexia wrote:

tobacco.. ..just doesn't get you high.

This also, is untrue. At one point, tobacco was perscribed by doctors to pateints exhibiting symptoms of stress and anxiety due to its recognised psychological properties. You ever had a drag of a cigarette? If you're a non smoker and thus lack the tolerance of smokers, you'll get violent fucking headspin and be feeling quite odd for at least 15 minutes..

I cant help but notice that your gripe against the use and users of marijana seems more than a little personal. Its entirely your choice to partake of it or leave it well enough alone, just as it is mine. But in a thread devoted purely to the discussion of the drug, I had hoped you wouldent be as blatantly disparaging of my choice and willingness to discuss it.. Especially as your first 'welcoming' contact to me on this site. I joined 'cause I thought you were one of the most hilarious people I'd come across on the net. I hope I can stay here and continue to weep in laughter at your views, but its a little hard to do that when you seem more intent on belittling mine.