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Doddsino
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PostPosted: May 29 2010 04:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

It's simple, there's always going to be those characters that no one mentions, yet everyone recognizes from a movie. I was thinking about this the other day and thought of a guy who never gets appreciation:

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That's right. It's the random truck Nazi from Raiders of the Lost Ark. Despite the fact that he bears a striking resemblence to Paul Hogan, it is not him (although the thought of Crocodile Dundee serving in the Third Reich would be fucking awesome), but that doesn't make him any less cool. People will always go about how cool the Cairo swordsman or the German mechanic were as far as minor villians were in that film, but they don't hold a candle to this motherfucker. In fact, it's not really even known if the swordsman wanted to fight Indy, or if he was just showing off his swinging skills to an already pissed off and dysentary-sick Indiana Jones. As far as the mechanic, well he is cool and all...but you take one look at the guy and you know he's a killing machine, he could've very well killed Indy if he wasn't so stupid to play around with him for so long.

But random truck Nazi doesn't fuck around. He takes his job very, very fucking seriously. We're not given any insight to the background of random truck Nazi, but given the way he handles things, we can only assume he was a tough son of a bitch. He decides to take action after the other 5 truck Nazis couldn't get the job done, even though one of them does give Indy a minor gunshot wound. While all the others casually approach Indy from the sides, random truck Nazi bravely climbs the top the speeding truck. In a very Indy-esuqe moment, he loses his hat and mutters "scheisse".

He slides his way into the driver's seat. Exploiting Indy's gunshot wound, random truck Nazi punches Indy several times in the arm before casually throwing him through the windshield. Indy narrowly holds on for dear life as random truck Nazi puts the pedal to the metal trying to squish our American friend like a bug. Indy climbs under the truck and out the other side to slip through the passenger's side, kick ol' random truck Nazi in the teeth and throw him through broken windshield. Unfortunately for random truck Nazi, Indy had already damaaged the front of the truck so badly before, that random truck Nazi had nothing to grasp. With one fell "WHOA!" he meets his untimely end.

Random truck Nazi died for what he believed in. He bravely died fighting for his country and his men. Although he didn't kill Indy, he showed the most intent to do so with the chance he was given, since so many others always seem to toy with Indy, so their deaths aren't nearly as memorable. In fact, random truck Nazi came closer than any of the main villians ever did and aside from the Temple strangler or the Monkey man, I can't think of anyone who came as close. Farewell you brave knight, you...random truck Nazi, for while the world may forget you for what you were, I'll never forget you for what you did...or came close to doing.
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eatpork
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PostPosted: May 31 2010 11:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think Gaston from Beauty and the Beast is pretty fucking unappreciated compared to the rest of the Disney villains who are always the usual suspects (Scar, Jafar, Ursula), when Gaston was easily a funnier and more complex character than all those three and more than half of the rest of the Disney villains.


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Shut up, Dorn
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PostPosted: Jun 01 2010 12:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

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Max Zorin wasn't the best Bond villain, but he was close. I felt bad that Walken had to be the bad guy in a BAD Bond movie.


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Milhouse
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PostPosted: Jun 01 2010 08:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

Him...on the left. The Chamberlain. My sister is 31 and the sound of his whimper still creeps her out.

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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: Jun 01 2010 08:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What a great topic. I should do a series like this on my website. Its brilliant!

That said, I totally can't think of any right off the top of my head that would be good enough. I'll give it some thought, and see if I can come up with something to top Random Truck Nazi.


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Spanish Meatloaf
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PostPosted: Jun 01 2010 09:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Milhouse wrote:
Him...on the left. The Chamberlain. My sister is 31 and the sound of his whimper still creeps her out.

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I am definitely with milhouse on this one. I hate skexies.
MY PICK: The storm trooper that tries to kill yoda in Revenge of the Sith. You had to have some serious balls to do that.

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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 12:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Rattigan. One of the more obscure Disney villains... and one of the best.

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Milhouse
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 07:55 am Reply with quote Back to top

I bet you could have a whole category devoted to villainous rats/mice...
Secret of NIMH - Jenner
An American Tail - Warren T. Rat
Pinky and the Brain - The Brain (he was a villain)
Itchy & Scratchy - Itchy
SMB2 - Mouser
Harry Potter PoA - Scabbers (Peter Pettigrew)

There are probably a ton more, but you probably don't give a rat's ass.
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AtmanRyu
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 09:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Milhouse wrote:
I bet you could have a whole category devoted to villainous rats/mice...
Secret of NIMH - Jenner
An American Tail - Warren T. Rat
Pinky and the Brain - The Brain (he was a villain)
Itchy & Scratchy - Itchy
SMB2 - Mouser
Harry Potter PoA - Scabbers (Peter Pettigrew)

There are probably a ton more, but you probably don't give a rat's ass.


In the case of The Brain he's more affably evil than anything else. His main reason to conquer the world is that he feels confident that he can make a better job of running it than your average human (and he may be right).

Besides, in that show, Snowball is the more villainous one, as even Brain had to step in to stop him several times as he's crazy enough to destroy it.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 10:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

I nominate the following:

Baxter Stockman - TMNT = His mousers were one of the few villians to easily inflitrate the Turtles's sewer lair and F their S up.

Doctor BadVibes - C.O.P.S. = Was a mad scientist whose inventions always worked. Also made cough drops that allowed villians to pass lie detector tests, rendering them completely useless.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 12:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmmm.... we've kind of moved away from MOVIE villains, haven't we?
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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 02:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Okay, I've got one. I nominate Vader's Right Hand TIE Fighter Pilot (VRHTFP) from Star Wars.



VRHTFP is clever. When we see him for the first time, he performs a quick flyby shoot up of Han Solo's Millennium Falcon. Not only does his attack do a small amount of damage to the famous ship, it lures Han (and therefore Luke, Obi-Wan and R2-D2) close enough for the Death Star to capture in its tractor beam. Therefore, it is quite possible to conclude that VRHTFP single- handedly (if rather accidentally) recaptured the Death Star plans that Vader and the Emperor were seeking. Of course, no one in the Empire knew that at the time, but this in no way diminishes VRHTFP's accomplishment, for which he would no doubt have received a medal if Vader--or anyone else--realized exactly who it was they had captured. It really IS Vader's fault; after all, instead of using the Force to determine if there was something important on the ship, he gets into a pissing contest with Obi-Wan, and inadvertently turns his oldest enemy into an omnipotent Force Ghost. Real good, Dark Lord of the Sith. VRHTFP manages to RETRIEVE THE PLANS that YOU LOST, and you let it slip through your fingers. Truly, anger does lead to blindness.

True to his quietly heroic nature however, VRHTFP does not let the incompetence of his superiors get him down. He remains devoutly loyal to his Lord, as evidences by his unquestioned obedience when Vader, during the Rebel assault of the Death Star, orders, "You! Come with me!"* He immediately drops whatever else it was he was doing and follows Vader, bravely defending his leader's flank as Vader attempts to quash the Rebel scum. In the end, VRHTFP gives his life for
his Lord and his Empire, as he is blown away by the arch-nemesis he thought he had conquered: Han Solo.

Fly straight and true, VRHTFP. The Empire may not have recognized your heroism, dedication and sacrifice, but we Star Wars nerds do!






*Yes, I am aware of the fact that all the pilots look alike so there's no way to verify that it was the same guy. But this is MY narrative dammit, so stop nitpicking!


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 03:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Evil Mr. Midnight:

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aeonic
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 03:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'd still have to say Frank from Blue Velvet. It's a genuinely creepy movie in the first place, but as it was envisaged, it would've been even creepier. Lynch wanted him inhaling helium instead of what was in the tank (which the late Hopper suggested). Could you imagine him yelling, "Baby wants to fuck! Baby wants to fuck Blue Velvet!" in a high-pitched helium voice?


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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 03:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That wouldn't be creepy, so much as silly. Which is why they didn't do it.
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 03:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Says you, Hopper and Lynch! I think I would've pissed my pants. And yeah, as a villain Frank may have been a little over the top, but I could've totally seen him as somebody who lived in the town I grew up in. Every suburban town like that is a seething hotbed of wacky crap when you peel back the layers.


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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 03:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Never said I didn't like Frank. Frank was awesome. He was no King Koopa though.
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Doddsino
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 10:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk is on the right path, these are mostly people from large franchises who don't get recognition because they're overshadowed by other villians in the movie. I would ALMOST say Bob from Batman, but he's got a pretty large following.
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 11:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

on that token, wedge antilles is an underrated hero. he saved luke's life several times for crying out loud.


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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 11:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

username wrote:
on that token, wedge antilles is an underrated hero. he saved luke's life several times for crying out loud.


Yeah but Wedge is famous, and a fixture of the SW universe. Neither Random Truck Nazi or VRHTFP ever get any recognition at all.


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PostPosted: Jun 02 2010 11:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
username wrote:
on that token, wedge antilles is an underrated hero. he saved luke's life several times for crying out loud.

Yeah but Wedge is famous, and a fixture of the SW universe. Neither Random Truck Nazi or VRHTFP ever get any recognition at all.

thats cuz theyre dead.


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PostPosted: Jun 03 2010 12:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

There're a few I can't remember, but off the top of my head, that one dinosaur in the original Land Before Time before Cera meets up with Littlefoot, Ducky, and Petrie. I can't think of the name (it was a 'belly dragger'), but it was just crawling along and sniffing the air with it's snake-like tongue. If it had managed to smell Littlefoot and co., it would have ended their journey right then and there. God knows it went off and ate some other poor dinosaur.


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AtmanRyu
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PostPosted: Jun 03 2010 12:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

Here's one for ya: God in every single disaster movie and the occasional movie in which he sends his angels of death or whatever.

Think about it.
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Drew Linky
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PostPosted: Jun 03 2010 12:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

AtmanRyu wrote:
Here's one for ya: God in every single disaster movie and the occasional movie in which he sends his angels of death or whatever.

Think about it.

Holy hashbrown, he's right.


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PostPosted: Jun 03 2010 12:49 am Reply with quote Back to top

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