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phantasmzombie
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 03:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I hope this pervert goes to prison for a long time. Here is a nice quote of his from 1979 in a interview with that Tadler magazine.

“If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!”

Poor Roman Polanski being persecuted for giving quaaludes and beer to a 13 year old and sodomizing her. I hope they lock him up for every year he was a fugitive.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 03:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yup. Read the police report and the questioning of the girl. He needs to be locked up.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 03:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

phantasmzombie wrote:
I hope this pervert goes to prison for a long time. Here is a nice quote of his from 1979 in a interview with that Tadler magazine.

“If I had killed somebody, it wouldn’t have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But… fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!”

Poor Roman Polanski being persecuted for giving quaaludes and beer to a 13 year old and sodomizing her. I hope they lock him up for every year he was a fugitive.

you just now realized this? No... just no.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 03:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No, I've had this opinion for a very long time. But it was just today when I read he was arrested by the Swiss police recently and might be extradited back to the U.S. to answer for his crimes.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 04:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Pianist was a very good movie, I hear Chinatown is great to but I never finished it.

This is a weird case, I like the movies and feel sorry for him about his wife being killed but it's hard to feel bad for him as a pedophile. If he was caught for one molestation you can bet there were more.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 04:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You guys do know that even if he comes back, he probably won't be doing a lot of jail time, right? His has a plea bargain in place, so they can only get him on one count of unlawful sexual conduct with a minor. If the courts try to go back on that bargain, he can retract his plea, which sadly leaves the courts with nothing, as the victim refuses to testify. The worst they can get him on is failure to appear in court, and I am not quite sure how many years he can get for that. Add in the fact that the victim wants leniency, leading me to suspect that he will probably just have probation, maybe a couple years for skipping out on sentencing.

Which is sad, really. I don't think the man is your standard pedophile, as this is the only case where he has done anything like this, and I don't believe he will be doing anything like this ever again. He just doesn't fit the pedophile mold. Still, he needs to be punished for his crime, and just because he is a famous director doesn't mean he should get special treatment in court.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 05:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I never really understood pedophilia. What's the point (or fun) in being sexually active with someone who is too young to understand and not even developed enough yet. Since pre-teens or even teens don't understand, they certainly will be a lot of explaining which IMO kills the mood. And their bodies are still maturing which means that later down the road, they will look a lot more appealing when they reach adult hood. Since i'm still in my twenties, i draw the line at 19 but prefer 21+.

I get the concept, being with someone younger can help recapture your youth and re-energizing and challenge your sexual performance but . . . 13, come on, that's really creepy and pushing it.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 05:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Maybe, I am just confused by Hollywood's take on law, via crime dramas, but hasn't the statute of limitations run out by now?

I'm not saying he should go free or unpunished, but I am curious as to the due process for this.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 05:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I misread your first post as saying the quote was from "Toddler magazine".


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 05:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ReeperTheSeeker wrote:
I never really understood pedophilia. What's the point (or fun) in being sexually active with someone who is too young to understand and not even developed enough yet. Since pre-teens or even teens don't understand, they certainly will be a lot of explaining which IMO kills the mood. And their bodies are still maturing which means that later down the road, they will look a lot more appealing when they reach adult hood.


It is a deep mental disturbance. Remember, most pedophiles were victims of pedophilia themselves, and have had damaged minds as a result.

Knyte wrote:
Maybe, I am just confused by Hollywood's take on law, via crime dramas, but hasn't the statute of limitations run out by now?


Nope, because Polanski accepted a plea bargain and was just awaiting sentencing, there are no statue of limitations.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 07:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

nihilisticglee wrote:
ReeperTheSeeker wrote:
I never really understood pedophilia. What's the point (or fun) in being sexually active with someone who is too young to understand and not even developed enough yet. Since pre-teens or even teens don't understand, they certainly will be a lot of explaining which IMO kills the mood. And their bodies are still maturing which means that later down the road, they will look a lot more appealing when they reach adult hood.


It is a deep mental disturbance. Remember, most pedophiles were victims of pedophilia themselves, and have had damaged minds as a result.


In addition to the fact that, hey, some people are turned by that...there's the feeling of power associated with having complete control over someone that's completely helpless. As for "explaining" it...it's rape. You usually don't bother to explain the steps (well, I assume you wouldn't)
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 07:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
nihilisticglee wrote:
ReeperTheSeeker wrote:
I never really understood pedophilia. What's the point (or fun) in being sexually active with someone who is too young to understand and not even developed enough yet. Since pre-teens or even teens don't understand, they certainly will be a lot of explaining which IMO kills the mood. And their bodies are still maturing which means that later down the road, they will look a lot more appealing when they reach adult hood.


It is a deep mental disturbance. Remember, most pedophiles were victims of pedophilia themselves, and have had damaged minds as a result.


In addition to the fact that, hey, some people are turned by that...there's the feeling of power associated with having complete control over someone that's completely helpless. As for "explaining" it...it's rape. You usually don't bother to explain the steps (well, I assume you wouldn't)


That is the one argument i thought of, that the people are just plain turned on by being in control. We'll if that's the case, get into S&M and leave the kids on the playground the hell alone.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 08:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Pedophilia is not a "mental disturbance". It is a fetish, and fetishes are pretty much hardwired into people. However, when you act on it, then you cross the line imo.

I'll admit I don't know who this guy is, but yes, this can't go unpunished.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 09:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, it's one thing to be turned on by something, it's another to go fuck a little kid. I sincerely hope he gets the harshest punishment he can get.

Also, on pedophiles, I hear all the time that most of them were molested as children or whatever, but I thought I read that that actually isn't true, and that the only correlation is that you have a better chance of turning out a pedophile if you were fucked around with, but that most weren't. It's also worth noting that if you get fucked around with as a kid, the odds of you ending up with /any/ mental disorder highly increase. Physical or sexual aabuse as children is one of the very few trends they've noticed in people who develop Schizophrenia, but for virtually any mental disorder, the chances of getting it sharply increase if you're sexually abused as a child. I'm pretty sure it isn't an especially sharp increase for developing pedophilia.

And Bman, it may be a fetish, but fetishes are mental disorders, and would generally be described as a mental disturbance. I don't think it's an excuse to act on the fetish, but it's indeniable the man is sick.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 09:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Captain_Pollution wrote:
Yeah, it's one thing to be turned on by something, it's another to go fuck a little kid. I sincerely hope he gets the harshest punishment he can get.


Again, even if he is brought back, he won't be receiving really harsh punishment. Plus, I didn't really think of the man as a pedophile, more of a man who needed control. Pedophiles follow a pattern, and it never happens just once. Doesn't make it any less wrong however.

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Also, on pedophiles, I hear all the time that most of them were molested as children or whatever, but I thought I read that that actually isn't true, and that the only correlation is that you have a better chance of turning out a pedophile if you were fucked around with, but that most weren't. It's also worth noting that if you get fucked around with as a kid, the odds of you ending up with /any/ mental disorder highly increase. Physical or sexual aabuse as children is one of the very few trends they've noticed in people who develop Schizophrenia, but for virtually any mental disorder, the chances of getting it sharply increase if you're sexually abused as a child. I'm pretty sure it isn't an especially sharp increase for developing pedophilia.


It isn't a particular sharp increase for pedophile, but for many disorders. Schizophrenia is one, pedophile is another, pretty much any fetish is the result of something traumatizing in childhood. It is weird that the human mind works that way, that things that deeply hurt us, stuff we block out because it is so horrifying too us, we tend to seek out in adulthood in one form or another. We don't quite know why pedophiles act the way they do, but the current idea is through trauma. However, we honestly don't quite know, but until proven wrong the general theory is sexual abuse or being overly exposed to child porn as a child greatly increases the likely hood of being a pedophile.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 10:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
I misread your first post as saying the quote was from "Toddler magazine".


So did I!

honestly, I enjoy his films. The Ninth Gate was classic, but you don't date rape kids and then brag about it.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 10:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i didnt care for the 9th gate. it was just too... dumb.

and whats up w/this petition? http://snarkfood.com/over-100-hollywood-celebs-sign-petition-for-roman-polanski-release/34843/


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 10:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ReeperTheSeeker wrote:
I never really understood pedophilia. .


Awesome, new quote.

I have read the same thing I believe Captain_Polution, or at least that is the general thought on the whole thing by the experts.


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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 11:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

nihilisticglee wrote:


Again, even if he is brought back, he won't be receiving really harsh punishment. Plus, I didn't really think of the man as a pedophile, more of a man who needed control. Pedophiles follow a pattern, and it never happens just once. Doesn't make it any less wrong however.



I'm sure this was not a isolated incident. He said very clearly that he likes to fuck young girls and comes off like he didn't do anything wrong and was being unfairly persecuted. So I think it is safe to assume he has indulged since he absconded from the U.S.
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PostPosted: Oct 01 2009 11:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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and whats up w/this petition? http://snarkfood.com/over-100-hollywood-celebs-sign-petition-for-roman-polanski-release/34843/

The moment I give a shit that Woody Allen of all people, signs a petition supporting the release a pedophile, is the moment bats start flying out of my newly cavernous asshole, cause bricks will be shat.


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It would be funny if they used that online petition thing that everyone seems to use for stupid petitions these days.


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anorexorcist wrote:
The Pianist was a very good movie, I hear Chinatown is great to but I never finished it.


Chinatown was ok, but I will admit I almost fell asleep during it.

I wonder if the event took place in California?

In my ironic fantasy world, he'd be cell mates with Charles Manson.
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PostPosted: Oct 02 2009 02:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

phantasmzombie wrote:
nihilisticglee wrote:


Again, even if he is brought back, he won't be receiving really harsh punishment. Plus, I didn't really think of the man as a pedophile, more of a man who needed control. Pedophiles follow a pattern, and it never happens just once. Doesn't make it any less wrong however.



I'm sure this was not a isolated incident. He said very clearly that he likes to fuck young girls and comes off like he didn't do anything wrong and was being unfairly persecuted. So I think it is safe to assume he has indulged since he absconded from the U.S.


Incident to proven guilty. The french government is not stupid, even with a large group of people trying to get rid of the age of consent laws there, they wouldn't be so dumb to knowingly keep a repeat offender in their country. Until there is a report, a second victim, child porn found on his computer, or some proof of another incident, we can not assume.

And he oped for a plea bargain, of course he knew what he did was wrong. There was limited evidence against him, no witness, the victim was unwilling to come before the court, and he could afford a good lawyer. He very well could have won, gotten away with it completely, but he didn't.

And about that quote above, can someone find me the entire interview, because as telling as it seems to be of Polandki's character, I feel people should make it it isn't being taken out of context, since all forms of media seem to thrive on doing that.
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PostPosted: Oct 02 2009 03:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It would be hard to take his words out of context from that part of the interview, it sounds pretty cut & dry to me when a accused child rapist says "Everyone wants to fuck young girls!".

I'd like someone to find me a quote where he seems remorseful for what he did. I've searched the internet and I can't seem to find one.
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PostPosted: Oct 02 2009 03:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

chris rock's take on the roman polanski thing:
http://jezebel.com/5372888/chris-rock-on-roman-polanski-its-rape-rape


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