Canada has been your friendly northern neighbor for about 144 years, we have shared the longest undefended border in the world for quite some time, that being said
FUCK YOU AND STOP BLAMING CANADA FOR YOUR OWN INCOMPETENCE!!!!
Its NOT Canadas fault that terrorists enter your country and blow shit up! look at your own foreign policy ffs!
Lieberman... you are an idiot, oh yes, Canada is crawling with islamic militants, on every bloody corner of our major cities, chanting durka durka, death to america and rallying a huge army to come flooding through that undefended border! Osama is here too, hiding behind some sand dunes in Drumhellar, AB.
p.s.
This is in no way targeted at America or the general American public, you guys are all fantastic and I want to go to the Culinary Institute of America one day but seriously... your politicians are fucked up!
Let's assume it's a mixture of the two!
Optimist With Doubts
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 01:53 am
Um what?
bassguy252
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 02:42 am
When Prime Minister Stephen Harper meets with U.S. President Barack Obama in Washington on Friday, he must assure him the sky is not falling.
And he must tell American legislators to chill out, take a pill if necessary, but to avoid panic and knee-jerk responses.
Like demanding Canadians begin carrying U.S. visas, for example.
That would be a trade and commerce killer.
And totally unnecessary.
Almost 10 years after 9/11, and 144 years after Canada constituted itself as America's northern neighbor, a U.S. congressional report has delivered high anxiety to its lawmakers with its eureka moment that the world's longest undefended border has only 50 kms that are actually defended.
Suddenly this is news?
And, as usual, there are people in high authority who are needlessly flipping out.
Like Sen. Joe Lieberman, chairman of the powerful U.S. homeland security committee, for example, and a war hawk who is mercifully not seeking a fifth term in office.
He called the congressional report "absolutely alarming." And he's from Connecticut -- not exactly a million miles from the Canada-U.S. border.
There is no question Lieberman loves hyperbole, as in his statement that "there are more Islamist extremist groups in Canada than in Mexico." What next from Lieberman? That Osama bin Laden's hiding behind a hoodoo in Drumheller?
And then there is Republican Sen. Susan Collins. And she's from Maine, for crying out loud.
Her wild-eyed contribution to the hysteria was to state terrorists wanting to enter the U.S. would go for the "weak link," and would therefore enter the States via Canada rather than Mexico.
Much of this comes from the still widely-held view by too many Americans that the 9/11 hijackers -- all Saudis -- entered the U.S. from Canada.
This is a crock, of course, but no sense letting the facts stand in the way of a good conspiracy theory, or to tell ordinary Americans that, believe it or not, there are also Canadian troops in Afghanistan helping them fight a common enemy.
American legislators like Lieberman and Collins are loose cannons who unfortunately have powerful positions on the homeland security committee.
Harper must be delicate in stating this fact.
But he must state it.
Let's assume it's a mixture of the two!
phantasmzombie
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 03:46 am
I've heard all kinds of 9-11 truther, crackpot theorys, infowars nonsense, but I have never heard anyone blame Canada for Islamic terrorism in the U.S. Canada may not be crawling with Islamic militants, but they certainly have their share of idiots.
bassguy252
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 03:50 am
at least we dont have Joe Lieberman
and you have never heard anyone at all try to say that terrorists enter US soil through Canada??
are you living under a rock? please, allow me to inform you
"Unfortunately, misconceptions arise on something as fundamental as where the 9-11 terrorists came from," said Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador in Washington.
"As the 9-11 commission reported in 2004, all of the 9-11 terrorists arrived in the United States from outside North America. They flew to major U.S. airports. They entered the U.S. with documents issued by the United States government and no 9-11 terrorists came from Canada."
Wilson, who was the keynote speaker at the Border Trade Alliance meeting in Washington on Tuesday, said Napolitano's staff attempted to tamp down the controversy by blaming the comments on a simple misunderstanding.
"Her comment from her people is that she misunderstood," Wilson said, adding that he was planning a personal meeting with Napolitano in the near future.
The furor began when Napolitano was asked to clarify statements she had made about equal treatment for the Mexican and Canadian borders, despite the fact that a flood of illegal immigrants and a massive drug war are two serious issues on the southern border.
"Yes, Canada is not Mexico, it doesn't have a drug war going on, it didn't have 6,000 homicides that were drug-related last year," she said.
"Nonetheless, to the extent that terrorists have come into our country or suspected or known terrorists have entered our country across a border, it's been across the Canadian border. There are real issues there."
When asked if she was referring to the 9-11 terrorists, Napolitano added: "Not just those but others as well."
However, Public Safety Minister Peter Van Loan downplayed the comments and said that Napolitano is well aware that Canada was not the source of the 9-11 terrorists.
"We spoke about it back in March, and we were sharing a chuckle at the fact that the urban myth does circulate," he told CTV's Power Play.
Let's assume it's a mixture of the two!
phantasmzombie
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 04:05 am
Hey, I guess I have been living under a rock, because it seems to me that it is common knowledge that the hijackers were in the country legally on visas.
bassguy252
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 04:15 am
It is common knowledge, however, it is also claimed that terrorists enter into the US through Canada, which is false.
"the urban myth does circulate"
to make matters worse you have politicians going "Canada is a haven for Islamic Militants!" which is also a farce. We do however have many muslim canadians.
Let's assume it's a mixture of the two!
SoldierHawk
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 04:38 am
Bass, if it makes you feel any better, our politicians have been saying far, far worse about our own people for many years now.
Also, this:
(You knew that was inevitable, right? ) Seriously though, you know I love our Northern Neighbors. I couldn't live without Kurt Browning or my Oilers!
William Shakespeare wrote:
Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.
Doddsino
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 04:54 am
"Prime Minister Stephen Harper, the way I see it, you already got two strikes against ya. One; you're not big enough, or strong enough to go one on one with the genetic freak. The other thing is, you're from that stinking country you call Canada. So watch, I think it's your time, to go back up, to that cesspool, that place we call MEXICO NORTH. And I apologize to all the Mexicans out there."
And common sense tells you that the Canadian border would be easier to cross than the Mexican one. It is the world's largest border shared by two countries, and much of it is completely undefended. It's absolutely possible for someone to walk across that border, whether it happens regularly or not.
It's not a slight against Canada, it's recognition of a weak link in our defenses, and since it's half Canada's border, it's something that needs to be worked on with them.
Personally, I think we should resolve our souther border issues well before the northern ones, but maybe that's just personal bias because my state has the highest kidnapping incident rate in the entire US. That said, it'll never happen because we love cheap labor and exploitable persons who chew up gobs of our social welfare programs and drive our hospitals into bankruptcy by seeking treatment and then disappearing.
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Syd Lexia
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Posted:
Feb 04 2011 11:27 am
Bass, you've posted a two-year-old news story and a poorly written op-ed piece, and you're trying to tell us the sky is falling. I think you're the one being paranoid and alarmist.