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Atma
Title: Dragoon
Joined: Apr 29 2010
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/09/california.fast.food.ban/index.html?hpt=T2
Are happy meals good for kids? No, not by any means, but who the fuck are you City of San Francisco to ban Happy Meals? Thats a slippery slope that leads to a 1984 IMO.
Parents take responsiblity and don't let your kids become fat asses.
But if your in a rush and need a quick meal for your kid, that shouldn't be ruled out.
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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Americans who eat poorly is the second largest problem with this country (second to our insane over-usage of petroleum). I'm fine with demanding that food served as a "Meal" must be nutritionally sound. On the other hand, if it is a-la-carte, then I am fine with it being whatever it wants to be... as long as it is clearly marked as such. In other words, let people eat what they want, but make them determine what they really want based on each item if it isn't healthy. If they can't do that, then offer the toy separately and offer per item sales.
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DarkMaze
Joined: Feb 24 2006
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In Soviet McDonalds, Happy Meal bans YOU.
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Burt Reynolds
Title: Bentley Bear
Joined: Apr 07 2008
Location: California
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Speaking of 1984, you know what my favorite treat in the world was? A fucking Happy Meal with a greasy plastic toy. It's funny, when I was a kid there was always /the/ fat kid at school. Now it's classrooms full of fat kids. Happy meals couldn't have changed much. It was a treat having one when I was a kid, not a cornerstone of my diet. I think parents need to be more responsible about what their kids eat, the government shouldn't decide what you feed your kid however.
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Rydog
Title: Dragon Slayer
Joined: Aug 11 2009
Location: Massachusetts
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You can now get a happy meal that consists of 4 chicken nuggets, apple slices and juice/water, if the parent lets the kid have soda and fries, it's their own damn fault if their kids are unhealthy.
Why does San Fran think they are so fucking special anyways?
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Doddsino
Joined: Oct 01 2009
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First they stop giving out the little free ice cream cones...
Then they take the ball pit out of the Play Place...
Then they take away my McCookies...
And now they're eliminating the happy from the meals...
What next? Enslavement camps for fat people?
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Atma
Title: Dragoon
Joined: Apr 29 2010
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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| Doddsino wrote: |
| What next? Enslavement camps for fat people? |
I wouldn't be suprised.
"It'll make them burn weight and its free labor!"
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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| Doddsino wrote: |
| What next? Enslavement camps for fat people? |
Well, there are certainly a lot of cons to this... I mean, freedom is kinda what the country is based on...
But imagine airline travel without being squished by the guy next to you, or filling an elevator to maximum capacity based on people, not weight. Imagine less wheezing from the guy in the corner of the office. But all of that doesn't really matter. We can all tolerate the small stuff.
What I can't deal with is the fact that I have to pay more money to my health insurance company because some irresponsible fat fucks can't teach their kids that French fries, apple pie, soda, and a hamburger aren't fucking breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Those ignorant little bastards and their idiotic adult supervisors are literally a leach on the economy, most specifically the middle class.
So no, I don't think that obesity should lead you to an internment camp. I am behind any effort that communities want to make that equates to a healthier general population. If parents want to make bad food decisions for their kids, fine, they are going to do it, but don't make it easy for them, and for the love of god, charge a fucking tax on that shit.
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Klimbatize
2010 NES Champ
Title: 2011 Picnic/Death Champ
Joined: Mar 15 2010
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| GPFontaine wrote: |
What I can't deal with is the fact that I have to pay more money to my health insurance company because some irresponsible fat fucks can't teach their kids that French fries, apple pie, soda, and a hamburger aren't fucking breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Those ignorant little bastards and their idiotic adult supervisors are literally a leach on the economy, most specifically the middle class.
...and for the love of god, charge a fucking tax on that shit. |
Word.
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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I agree absolutely with the sentiment here. It's not the Happy Meals that're doing this to kids at all, or at least, not directly. It's the fact that these kids sit on their asses all day playing video games, getting on the Internet or texting each other. Kick them outside with no electronic gee-gaws and make them run around for fuck's sake!
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
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It's not a ban on happy meals, it's a ban on giving away toys with meals that don't meet certain nutritional requirements.
It's still stupid.
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Doddsino
Joined: Oct 01 2009
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Why not make the toys educational or encourages them to be more active? There's other ways to go about it than just to take something away.
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
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| UsaSatsui wrote: |
It's not a ban on happy meals, it's a ban on giving away toys with meals that don't meet certain nutritional requirements.
It's still stupid. |
Agreed. When I was a kid, I'd eat a Big Mac because I wanted to be like my dad, but if I didn't eat all my fries I'd get yelled at, so I ate them all too. Then I'd go run around for a few hours. I was a hundred and fourty pounds until I was 26 and I'm still only running about 165 right now.
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DarkMaze
Joined: Feb 24 2006
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| GPFontaine wrote: |
| What I can't deal with is the fact that I have to pay more money to my health insurance company because some irresponsible fat fucks can't teach their kids that French fries, apple pie, soda, and a hamburger aren't fucking breakfast, lunch, and dinner. |
You are fined two credits for violations of the Verbal Morality Statute. Also:
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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| DarkMaze wrote: |
| GPFontaine wrote: |
| What I can't deal with is the fact that I have to pay more money to my health insurance company because some irresponsible fat fucks can't teach their kids that French fries, apple pie, soda, and a hamburger aren't fucking breakfast, lunch, and dinner. |
You are fined two credits for violations of the Verbal Morality Statute. Also:
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I didn't say make it illegal. I said, separate it on a menu... I am also fine with just charging a hefty tax that covers the cost of caring for obesity related illnesses.
So caveman... let's finish with all the Rip Van Winkle and get moving.
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Rydog
Title: Dragon Slayer
Joined: Aug 11 2009
Location: Massachusetts
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What exactly do you want to tax GPF, unhealthy food?
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Doddsino
Joined: Oct 01 2009
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Exactly, where would you draw the line with that?
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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Where would I draw the line?
* Soft drinks = Tax
* Alcoholic drinks = Tax
* All foods with more than 2G of transfats pers serving = tax
* All restaurant prepared foods that have a ratio higher than 70 calories to 1 oz per serving = tax. This means an individual item on a menu, not its sides. So think about the hamburger and whatever dresses it, not the fries on the side. Tax would be on a per item basis and only paid on the value of the item. So if you got something healthy and something shitty, you only pay the tax on the shitty thing.
How much tax? I would start it at 5%.
So, if you buy a soda for $1.25, it would now cost $1.31. This tax would be in addition to any current sales taxes or bottle deposits in effect.
So if you bought 6 items off the dollar menu at McDonnald's and 5 of them were "tax worthy" you would pay 25 cents in a "fat tax".
And that is how I would do it.
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Drew Linky
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| GPFontaine wrote: |
Where would I draw the line?
* Soft drinks = Tax
* Alcoholic drinks = Tax
* All foods with more than 2G of transfats pers serving = tax
* All restaurant prepared foods that have a ratio higher than 70 calories to 1 oz per serving = tax. This means an individual item on a menu, not its sides. So think about the hamburger and whatever dresses it, not the fries on the side. Tax would be on a per item basis and only paid on the value of the item. So if you got something healthy and something shitty, you only pay the tax on the shitty thing.
How much tax? I would start it at 5%.
So, if you buy a soda for $1.25, it would now cost $1.31. This tax would be in addition to any current sales taxes or bottle deposits in effect.
So if you bought 6 items off the dollar menu at McDonnald's and 5 of them were "tax worthy" you would pay 25 cents in a "fat tax".
And that is how I would do it. |
So, what you're saying is you'd tax everything that doesn't come out of a vegetable bag?
Well, that would be an effective way to make fat people leave the country eventually. It'd also be unbelievably unpopular, for pathetically obvious reasons. It just sounds bad to me. Doesn't help that I'm a little overweight, either..
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Thunderhorse
Title: This is DELICIOUS!
Joined: Dec 29 2009
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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| GPFontaine wrote: |
How much tax? I would start it at 5%.
So, if you buy a soda for $1.25, it would now cost $1.31. This tax would be in addition to any current sales taxes or bottle deposits in effect.
So if you bought 6 items off the dollar menu at McDonnald's and 5 of them were "tax worthy" you would pay 25 cents in a "fat tax".
And that is how I would do it. |
Boo! Keep yer taxes offa mah sweets, yah commie!
As for the happy meal ban, this saddens me as I know that happy meal toys are the only way some kids get toys. I think the "My Body My Choice" rule should take effect. Don't tell us what to eat and don't tax the "bad" stuff. If 99% of the population becomes obese, then so be it, as it was their own decisions that led them there.
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JoshWoodzy
Joined: May 22 2008
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"Hey, you! You say you weigh 150, have no history of obesity and still insist on eating a fattening meal twice a week?! I don't care, I'm a gonna tax it anyway! Mwahaha"
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Deadmau_5pra
Title: Amatuer film/podcaster
Joined: Feb 10 2009
Location: Chicago Area
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Wait, why is this an issue?
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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They should be more worried about inexplicable missile firings right off the California coast. What the fuck is up with that shit?
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FNJ
2010 SLF Tag Champ
Joined: Jun 07 2006
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So San fransisco is tolerant enough to allow the x-men to set up shop, but not enough to allow fat people to eat?
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Alowishus
Joined: Aug 04 2009
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| Doddsino wrote: |
First they stop giving out the little free ice cream cones...
Then they take the ball pit out of the Play Place...
Then they take away my McCookies...
And now they're eliminating the happy from the meals...
What next? Enslavement camps for fat people? |
In Ireland..
We never had free ice cones,
We need have ball pits or rarely even a play place,
We never had McCookies.
COUNT YOURSELF LUCKY.
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