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Posted: Mar 01 2007 02:05 pm

I whole time I've been reading this thread, I keep thinking of the Jump to Conclusions Mat guy from Office Space after he sustained his injuries.

That guy is a fuck. if he does get money, I hope he builds a big ass house only to have to catch on fire and burn down with him in it. Pour some strychnine in his eyes or something. Ugh.

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I don't know too much on how all this works.. But I'm pretty sure you can file (if you win) for the court costs, as well as any pay you lose as a result of this guy taking you to court on that date.

And believe it or not.. I also think the court will pay for the gas it took you to get there (it' like 5 dollars no matter, i think.. but yaa... you'll get compensated if you win, probably for all but the anxiety and shit.. of having to go through this process)

Clever bastard huh... does it just in time.. and at a point late enough you can't counter-sue damn.. WTF... Who the hell waits two years? That alone is fishy...

Well I can't see how he can prove his case, especially if the police repot (if there was one) after the accident was filed is in your favor, as well as the insurance report (if there is one).. Not sure how it went down, if you or someoen else called the cops, and how the insurance thing worked out, did he just pay you in cash for repairs, and say let's not get insurance involved etc...

Anyway hopefully some of those forces were called upon, and that will definitely clear this up for you in no time...

Good luck to you buddy, sorry to hear that kind of shit happening.

Posted: Mar 02 2007 04:36 pm

Your gas and lost wages are not reimburseable... so you're wrong.

Posted: Mar 02 2007 04:41 pm

JonSnow wrote:

I don't know too much on how all this works.. But I'm pretty sure you can file (if you win) for the court costs, as well as any pay you lose as a result of this guy taking you to court on that date.

And believe it or not.. I also think the court will pay for the gas it took you to get there (it' like 5 dollars no matter, i think.. but yaa... you'll get compensated if you win, probably for all but the anxiety and shit.. of having to go through this process)

Clever bastard huh... does it just in time.. and at a point late enough you can't counter-sue damn.. WTF... Who the hell waits two years? That alone is fishy...

Well I can't see how he can prove his case, especially if the police repot (if there was one) after the accident was filed is in your favor, as well as the insurance report (if there is one).. Not sure how it went down, if you or someoen else called the cops, and how the insurance thing worked out, did he just pay you in cash for repairs, and say let's not get insurance involved etc...

Anyway hopefully some of those forces were called upon, and that will definitely clear this up for you in no time...

Good luck to you buddy, sorry to hear that kind of shit happening.

This bit of legal advice brought to you care of Regal Jr.

Posted: Mar 02 2007 05:21 pm

"You should zap 'em. That's what I'd do" -Legal advice brought to you by Kid Lightning.

Posted: Mar 02 2007 05:52 pm

I'm not in the habit of coming to JonSnow's aid (or anyone else's, for the most part) but I'm not getting why people are jumping down his throat. It's not like he said "this is how it is and the other guy's screwed and I know for a fact you can get everything reimbursed". He was merely stating his opinion and giving some options as to what he could do, as well as saying good luck.

And Tish, seeing as you dole out your advice in every fucking thread whether it's wanted or not, and since I'm pretty sure that fixing iPods doesn't qualify you as an expert in the American legal system, I suggest you not be so fucking flippant about pointing out Jon being wrong when you don't know your ass from your hand in the matter.

If you did (which you don't, because if you did you definitely would have said something because you just CAN'T RESIST), you would've mentioned that while no, the court will not reimburse you for travel expenditures and lost wages, you can sue the person who originally sued you for those expenses. If you were found not to be at fault, the law allows you to recoup those expenses. I was a witness in two cases involving a friend of mine from college; one against him and one for his countersuit. He got all of his money back.

And even if you DID know it and somehow found an inner strength previosuly unseen to keep your mouth shut, you didn't have to be such a cunt about it.

I hope that clears things up, Jon. Good luck with the case, Douche.

Posted: Mar 02 2007 07:12 pm

Wow. If you didn't know your ass from your hand, that would lead to some very awkward handshakes/bathroom breaks.

Posted: Mar 02 2007 09:08 pm

S. McCracken wrote:

bla bla bla bla bla bla bla...
And Tish, seeing as you dole out your advice in every fucking thread whether it's wanted or not, and since I'm pretty sure that fixing iPods doesn't qualify you as an expert in the American legal system, I suggest you not be so fucking flippant about pointing out Jon being wrong when you don't know your ass from your hand in the matter.
If you did (which you don't, because if you did you definitely would have said something because you just CAN'T RESIST), you would've mentioned that while no, the court will not reimburse you for travel expenditures and lost wages, you can sue the person who originally sued you for those expenses. If you were found not to be at fault, the law allows you to recoup those expenses. I was a witness in two cases involving a friend of mine from college; one against him and one for his countersuit. He got all of his money back.
And even if you DID know it and somehow found an inner strength previosuly unseen to keep your mouth shut, you didn't have to be such a cunt about it.
bla bla bla bla bla

Just because the JOB I currently have is iPod specialist with Apple, doesn't mean I know nothing about the legal system! Do you know what courses I've taken in my life? What diplomas or certifications I may have? NO! So, before you act like you're the coolest guy on here for bitching at me, you may want to know what the fuck you're talking about first!
Moving on...
As for sueing for lost wages, that doesn't apply to this case. If Douche had been injured and had been out of work for a week, he could sue to recoup those wages. You cannot recoup the wages you've lost for going to court, because you chose to go to court to defend your position. This also applies to travel expenses... those are your responsibility. You can't sue for the gas you spent getting to/from court. A civil hearing is done so that the plaintiff can recuperate damages (either a loss or suffering), damages that were caused by the defendants actions or negligence. You can't sue for the expenses you incured going in to court as a defendant.

Lastly, if someone doesn't want the forum to comment on their story, they shouldn't fucking post it on a public forum... the point of a forum is for everyone to have an opinion... if you don't want my opinion I'd suggest you don't post.

EDIT: And Spanky, just out of curiosity, where did you go to law school? or get your legal/criminology training?

Posted: Mar 02 2007 09:15 pm

Well jesus guys/girls. There was a police report because a cop drove by and stopped however there was no one placed in the police report as, at fault. The insurance companies covered our damages. A.K.A. mine because i didn't even scratch the Truck, even though I had the Mammoth 1600lb Neon.

I will not be the one appearing in court from what I understand. I just had to give my statement on the events that transpired, and I believe they are going to be taking over the rest. They have my insurance and legal statement.

What I found funny was that when I gave my deposition to the Douchebags lawyer he was like, "You seem to be having a problem remembering this event. How can you say your not at fault?" BECAUSE IT WAS 2 YEARS AGO ASSHOLE! anyway the courthouse if i need to go is about a mile away and I got people that can cover for me at work.

Thanks for everyones concern.

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Tishwitch wrote:

Just because the JOB I currently have is iPod specialist with Apple, doesn't mean I know nothing about the legal system! Do you know what courses I've taken in my life? What diplomas or certifications I may have?

Considering that you are only 21 and are studying psychology, I seriously doubt you have the sufficient educational background & life experiences to be making such statements with certainty - especially for a country you don't live in and whose laws don't directly apply to you.

I may only have 7 1/2 months of experience as a paralegal, but I do know that witnesses who are summoned to depositions, hearings, and trials are regulary paid a witness fee and are compensated for their gas mileage (by the attorney's firm, which is then added to the bill to be paid by the client). It wouldn't be a large leap in logic then for a defendant to be reimbursed for such things if he/she wins their case, when they are often reimbursed for their attorney fees also.

Posted: Mar 02 2007 09:58 pm

Tishwitch wrote:

[Lastly, if someone doesn't want the forum to comment on their story, they shouldn't fucking post it on a public forum... the point of a forum is for everyone to have an opinion... if you don't want my opinion I'd suggest you don't post.

What the Hell did I do? I'm not complaining about you!

Posted: Mar 02 2007 10:04 pm

Cattivo wrote:

Tishwitch wrote:

Just because the JOB I currently have is iPod specialist with Apple, doesn't mean I know nothing about the legal system! Do you know what courses I've taken in my life? What diplomas or certifications I may have?

Considering that you are only 21 and are studying psychology, I seriously doubt you have the sufficient educational background & life experiences to be making such statements with certainty - especially for a country you don't live in and whose laws don't directly apply to you.

I may only have 7 1/2 months of experience as a paralegal, but I do know that witnesses who are summoned to depositions, hearings, and trials are regulary paid a witness fee and are compensated for their gas mileage (by the attorney's firm, which is then added to the bill to be paid by the client). It wouldn't be a large leap in logic then for a defendant to be reimbursed for such things if he/she wins their case, when they are often reimbursed for their attorney fees also.

Ah, but what you are saying is not at all the same was what Spanky was saying...

S. McCracken wrote:

you can sue the person who originally sued you for those expenses. If you were found not to be at fault, the law allows you to recoup those expenses.

By your explanation, I completely agree. If you are asked to provide a deposition, the firm can reimburse you for your time. However, you cannot recoup those by filing suit against someone (which is what Spanky was saying).

And just for the record, I am 23 years old. I do have a degree in Psychology, but I did minor in Sociology (and at the University where I did obtain the degree Sociology and Criminology are interchangeable... all criminology courses are taught within the Sociology department) and all the courses I took towards my minor, aside from the intro course, were Criminology courses. I've also taken classes, which did not count towards a university degre in Criminology/Law. But, if anyone wants to be 100% sure, my friend Denise from high school is graduating from Law School in the spring, and I'm sure she could answer anyone's legal questions.

EDIT:

Douche McCallister wrote:

What the Hell did I do? I'm not complaining about you!

It was directed at Spanky not you... he's the one who complained that I put my opinion "everywhere". So, no worries!

Posted: Mar 03 2007 05:45 pm

Tish: I have plenty of experience in the legal system. As the head of security at my college for 4 years, I was involved in countless complaints and lawsuits, 2 against me. One in particular accused me of racially profiling him, which was funny in the fact that I caught him smoking weed OUTSIDE and I busted him. Because of his complaint, I was suspended for 2 weeks pending an investigation. Of course I was found innocent and was repaid BY THE COURT for my travel expenses and sued the kid for my lost wages and the money for the classes I missed to appear in court.

And having that job meant having to take several classes and training seminars with the police department dealing with criminology and legal issues. THAT'S my fucking expertise.

And great, you have a minor in Sociology from a Canadian university. Do you have legal experiences? Been an American lawyer? Gotten a certificate in American law? Been a member of American law enforcement? My guess is no.

If you're found not guilty in civil court you CAN sue to recoup expenses, because like I mentioned in the previous post, my friend did it in a case where I was a witness for him. The lawsuit was called "frivolous" by the judge and my buddy was able to sue for lost wages and expenses, due to the fact that he "wasted" my friend's money and time by having to take days off of work, hire a lawyer, etc. It actually happens quite frequently in both criminal and civil cases.

I don't mind people posting opinions, but when you're posting things that are obviously WRONG and trying to pass it off and sounding like you have a fucking clue, that's when it becomes not ok.

Posted: Mar 03 2007 05:45 pm

Tishwitch wrote

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At the University where I did obtain the degree Sociology and Criminology are interchangeable

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Posted: Mar 03 2007 06:51 pm

S. McCracken wrote:

bla bla bla... And great, you have a minor in Sociology from a Canadian university. Do you have legal experiences? Been an American lawyer? Gotten a certificate in American law? Been a member of American law enforcement? My guess is no. bla bla bla...

I'm pretty done playing the stupid B.S. game you're playing. I'm sick of you just trying and trying to start shit with me... if you're bored, go out and make friends. I don't see you ever mentioning your law degree or certificate, you're not a lawyer, and head of security for a university is not official law enforcement... so who's to say what you say is any more accurate than what I have to say? You can continue ranting if you want, but this is the last reply I'm going to send to you in this thread.

Posted: Mar 03 2007 07:16 pm

Damn, I gotta take a shit.

Posted: Mar 03 2007 08:57 pm

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Quote:

This bit of legal advice brought to you care of Regal Jr.

In what way? Besides I already stated my general ignorance, at the beginning, and clearly some of the things I said, though fairly obvious we're indeed exactly what needs to be drawn into question to hurriedly dismiss the case, namely that of the reports of insurance agency. Wasn't trying to be a smart ass... just offering supportful comments, I sure hope he didn't take them in a bad way.

As for the gas.. comment I remember I went to a court hearing, and the person got re-imbursed for something (maybe it was the parkign meter cost) but I remember distinctly them getting $5.45 (not sure on the change) but 5 dollars for like travel time or something...

The point of bringing such things up was just to show how ridiculous this all is, and on the good hand becuase it's ridiculous you aren't really going ot lose anything (and i was pretty sure they do something for the gas even) so you lose absolutely nothing, and if he, Rycona, is in the right, as he suggests, he has absolutely nothing to lose....

Which is definitely a plus, the fact you have to go through this kind of stuff is annoying as hell....

Honestly I was just trying to be supportive.

Edit: Just read some comments, it does make more sense than what i originally said that such re-imbursment all would come from the, plantiff, i guess in this case.

Posted: Mar 04 2007 01:32 am

[quote="JonSnow"]

Quote:

...So you lose absolutely nothing, and if he, Rycona, is in the right, as he suggests, he has absolutely nothing to lose....

I completely respect everyones opinion. However i'm the one being sued not rycona, i wish he were being sued instead lol, sorry bro...but yea im not to worried about the whole thing its my insurance company versus theres. So i'm more or less in the clear.

Posted: Mar 04 2007 02:41 am

Tishwitch wrote:

S. McCracken wrote:

bla bla bla... And great, you have a minor in Sociology from a Canadian university. Do you have legal experiences? Been an American lawyer? Gotten a certificate in American law? Been a member of American law enforcement? My guess is no. bla bla bla...

I'm pretty done playing the stupid B.S. game you're playing. I'm sick of you just trying and trying to start shit with me... if you're bored, go out and make friends. I don't see you ever mentioning your law degree or certificate, you're not a lawyer, and head of security for a university is not official law enforcement... so who's to say what you say is any more accurate than what I have to say? You can continue ranting if you want, but this is the last reply I'm going to send to you in this thread.

Well, I'm glad you have nothing else to add. Stick with Canadian affairs; you don't know shit about America. I went to a state school and the police are actually state policemen, not campus police. I took classes with state policemen about the exact topics we're talking about and I have actual experience with the issues we're discussing; THAT why it's accurate.

I'd find a picture of someone burying their head in the sand or something showing equal ignorance, but I'm not going to waste my time.

EDIT: Fuck it, Jonny found it for me. I appreciate it, JM.

Posted: Mar 04 2007 03:01 am

And this, my friends, is an example of pwnage.

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Dancing Spiderman will save you!!!

Posted: Mar 04 2007 04:31 am

I'm gonna pretend the ridiculous internet drama never happened, and watch spidey dance the way only spider can.

Posted: Mar 04 2007 07:40 am

JonSnow wrote:

...So you lose absolutely nothing, and if he, Rycona, is in the right, as he suggests, he has absolutely nothing to lose....

Why is Snow talking about me? I made no grave comment on the matter, so don't manipulate my words and place my sayings into any serious argument. Besides that, my words don't even make sense in your argument. I called him a fuck and said that he should die. What does that have to do with "having nothing to lose"in a lawsuit? Nothing. It was a morbidly comedic opinion and such a statement shouldn't be used in any sort of valid serious argument.

Posted: Mar 04 2007 11:22 am

There is no fucking love in this thread.
and do you know why, good people of sydlexia?
because you're all a bunch of douchebags.