Knyte wrote:

I could only see this being justified in extreme cases. Repeat murderers and child molesters would be the only people that would have my vote for this implant.

That was my initial gut reaction too, specifically thinking of child molesters. Then I thought about all the innocent people who get executed, or who are sitting on death row right now. And the ideal became a lot, LOT less appealing.

You know what this reminds me of, is the Christopher Lambert movie "Fortress." Highly recommended for those who haven't seen it. Its about a futuristic prison where inmates are forced to ingest this implant that can cause extreme pain, or simply explode and disembowel them, as the prison warden sees fit. Needless to say, the prison warden is a sadistic bastard, and our hero must fight to escape. Its really good times, and one of the few Christopher Lambert movies I actually enjoyed, and didn't just suffer through for his sake because I love him as an actor.

Sci-fi writers call it again. Overall, I think this is a horrible idea, and needs to be killed off like, yesterday. I can't think about it any more deeply than that right now cause I'm at work, and can't afford the freak out.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Eddie_Hyde wrote: I can see how this chip can be used in certain situations. Does a multiple rapist deserve to know that there isn't somebody watching him? Fuck no. But does that mean that I think they should use this thing outside of extreme circumstances? Fuck no. Why the fuck would a multiple rapist be out with the general public? The purpose of this chip is moot, as people deemed dangerous enough to deserve one should be in jail serving multiple life sentences.

Not moot. I assume it would be pitched as a behavior control device for people already in prison. That's the only way it has even the smallest chance of flying in anything resembling a civilized country.

That, and we'll probably use it in whatever replaces Abu Ghraib, but *shrug*

Burt Reynolds wrote:

SoldierHawk wrote: Burt Reynolds wrote: Eddie_Hyde wrote: I can see how this chip can be used in certain situations. Does a multiple rapist deserve to know that there isn't somebody watching him? Fuck no. But does that mean that I think they should use this thing outside of extreme circumstances? Fuck no. Why the fuck would a multiple rapist be out with the general public? The purpose of this chip is moot, as people deemed dangerous enough to deserve one should be in jail serving multiple life sentences. Not moot. I assume it would be pitched as a behavior control device for people already in prison. That's the only way it has even the smallest chance of flying in anything resembling a civilized country. That, and we'll probably use it in whatever replaces Abu Ghraib, but *shrug* Doesn't seem reasonable to put in a chip with GPS on prisoners that are in the same damn spot forever and closely monitored already.

Except to track exactly where in the prison they are at all times. Also useful for thwarting escape attempts. I think it would work.

RobotGumshoe wrote:

Any one you could use this chip for could be better dealt with in a modern not crazy society by rehabilitation, incarceration, or just flat out execution. A tracking implant is also not a great idea. People don't escape from prisons very often, and anyone else is compliant enough to wear the ankle braces. Any government that tried this with its political dissidents would find itself in a position of nigh universal condemnation by the international powers, rising surgery cost, and a population thats been pushed the wrong way, the kind of way that causes the populous horse to shake the tyrannical flies off it. Its a clusterfuck of problems, and would never be practical, much less moral in any sense of the word.

Oh, without a doubt. I was just playing devil's advocate and trying to figure out how they might attempt to make it palatable to the general public. (Hopefully, they're moral enough not to even bother, although you never know.)

^ Like I said, I'm not actually advocating for this. Just trying to figure out how they might actually use it SHOULD it get approved (which I assume it won't, and if it does we have bigger problems than how they use it), and how they might attempt to sell the public on it (which, one hopes, would fail miserably regardless of how they package it.)

I assume people would feel differently if the chip had doses of cyanide in it though lol. Although I suppose that could be put in without them knowing.

The question about power is a really good one. I had never thought about that.