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Posted: Jan 17 2013 06:52 pm

I hate the Alpha series. I prefer the flashier super moves of the Vs. series to the Alpha supers. The Alpha supers are LAME.

Posted: Jan 17 2013 06:54 pm

Lame? Alpha 3 has the unblockable Mega Psycho Crusher that takes up the whole screen.

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

In the raging battle of Ken vs Ryu I've got to say I prefer Ken.

When I was young and naive the now stereotypical anime loner searching for the meaning of life appealed to me, now Ryu is just kind of Emo Smile

Ken is the angry man. He's the one who doesn't get the girl. Girl meaning Chun Li, ignore that thing about him being married. Wink

Ken's personality is something I liked better.

In my opinion, where they first appear in World Warrior, their stages show this personality difference too. Where does Ryu fight you? A dojo rooftop. It's a calm night and the music is not altogether forcing urgency. Ken fights you at the docks. A boat is constantly moving up and down in the background. His music shows A LOT more urgency. Plus he'll flip out and throw dragon punches like crazy.

From a game standpoint Ryu has had stronger fireballs and hurricane kicks. Ken had the dragon punch with all the range. Ken hit you more often, but much lighter. I could deal with losing the fireball and hurricane kick to Ryu because of all the range his dragon punch was given(plus he was on fire). The dragon punch was also mostly invincible then so it didn't matter, range won the debate for me. Now it feels about 50% invincible. Like they've become Sagat now. A kick in the side during the move might knock out out of it. I'm digressing...

To me they're still very much the same characters, even with how much they've changed over the years. The basic fundamentals of their movesets, so playstyles, don't change that greatly. The basics will always be there. I'll just win much faster with Ken Smile

Posted: Jan 21 2013 09:54 am

Ghandi wrote:

When I was young and naive the now stereotypical anime loner searching for the meaning of life appealed to me, now Ryu is just kind of Emo Smile

Sorry, but what? Some kind of...Emo? In wich way is Ryu an Emo besides the fact that he tends to live alone (wich he does the maximize his focus on his training)?

Posted: Jan 21 2013 10:57 am

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Ghandi wrote:

When I was young and naive the now stereotypical anime loner searching for the meaning of life appealed to me, now Ryu is just kind of Emo Smile

Sorry, but what? Some kind of...Emo? In wich way is Ryu an Emo besides the fact that he tends to live alone (wich he does the maximize his focus on his training)?

Ryu is Emo because he buys his Gi at Hot Topic and cuts himself.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 11:01 am

No he doesn't. Actually he is the incarnation of the perfect warrior, aiming for perfection but always considering himself as imperfect.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 12:38 pm

Ken isn't angry. If anything, he's easygoing. He's the guy who puts half as much effort into his training as Ryu and is still nearly as good. Which means if he worked as hard as Ryu, he could potentially be BETTER than him. But the time he spent away from training has allowed him to start a family.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 01:50 pm

This is slightly unrelated, but I remember a kid two grades below me in high school had the name Ryu and his parents named him after the Street Fighter character, but everybody (including him) kept pronouncing his name "Rye-yoo". I didn't have the heart to tell him that his parents have been pronouncing his name wrong. Sad

Posted: Jan 21 2013 05:58 pm

I say Rye-yoo. It sounds better, and I give zero fucks that it's wrong.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 06:03 pm

I pronounce it the japanese way. "Reeu". It just seems appropriate to me.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 06:24 pm

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

I pronounce it the japanese way. "Reeu". It just seems appropriate to me.

Same here. I originally got my pronunciation of the name from the SF2 anime movie back when it came out in the mid 90s, and assumed that everyone else pronounced it that way.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 06:28 pm

Has anybody noticed that both Ryus and Kens signature special move (Besides the Hadouken), the Sho-RYU-KEN, combines both their names?

Posted: Jan 21 2013 06:37 pm

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Has anybody noticed that both Ryus and Kens signature special move (Besides the Hadouken), the Sho-RYU-KEN, combines both their names?

Yes, I noticed that the first time I ever played the game.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 06:39 pm

Oh. I noticed it while reading this thread.. Just felt like pointing that out.

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Syd Lexia wrote:

He's the guy who puts half as much effort into his training as Ryu and is still nearly as good. Which means if he worked as hard as Ryu, he could potentially be BETTER than him. But the time he spent away from training has allowed him to start a family.

I agree with this. I still think he's angry Razz

It works for him.

Ken was always the loose cannon to me. Ryu was the meditating monk by comparison.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 08:07 pm

@om*d wrote:

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Has anybody noticed that both Ryus and Kens signature special move (Besides the Hadouken), the Sho-RYU-KEN, combines both their names?

Yes, I noticed that the first time I ever played the game.

Yeah, I remember that being a bit of mindblower the first time I realized it while playing in the arcade.

That was in 1992.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

Syd Lexia wrote:

I say Rye-yoo. It sounds better, and I give zero fucks that it's wrong.

Same. Always known it's not correct, don't care. I blaze my own trail in life, gangstas. And Ree-yoo just sounds goofy. It just makes me picture some overweight Otaku correcting me, holding up his finger "Actually, *huff, pant, huff* it's REE-yoo, peasant!"

Posted: Jan 21 2013 11:17 pm

@om*d wrote:

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:

Has anybody noticed that both Ryus and Kens signature special move (Besides the Hadouken), the Sho-RYU-KEN, combines both their names?

Yes, I noticed that the first time I ever played the game.

Ken means fist in Japan. I believe Ryu means either strong or dragon or something.

Posted: Jan 21 2013 11:35 pm

JoshWoodzy wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I say Rye-yoo. It sounds better, and I give zero fucks that it's wrong.

Same. Always known it's not correct, don't care. I blaze my own trail in life, gangstas. And Ree-yoo just sounds goofy. It just makes me picture some overweight Otaku correcting me, holding up his finger "Actually, *huff, pant, huff* it's REE-yoo, peasant!"

The Rye-yoo I mentioned previously gave an already pregnant chick herpes, so it reminds me of that every time I hear someone say it. Sad

You know, now that I think about it, the games have been saying the names every time someone wins at least since SF2: The New Challengers, so I can't think of a valid reason why someone would be pronouncing it wrong at this point.

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Cameron wrote:

JoshWoodzy wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I say Rye-yoo. It sounds better, and I give zero fucks that it's wrong.

Same. Always known it's not correct, don't care. I blaze my own trail in life, gangstas. And Ree-yoo just sounds goofy. It just makes me picture some overweight Otaku correcting me, holding up his finger "Actually, *huff, pant, huff* it's REE-yoo, peasant!"

You know, now that I think about it, the games have been saying the names every time someone wins at least since SF2: The New Challengers, so I can't think of a valid reason why someone would be pronouncing it wrong at this point.

Mortal Kombat got this right from the beginning.

Ka-BALL, KAY-no, Ray-den, etc. Tekken followed suit, which helped since they have names that are distinctly Japanese, Chinese, Korean, and so in their games.

It really the little things that make a good game great. I can't think of names that would have been hard to pronounce in World Warrior or New Challengers though. Vega? Ryu, sure. Blanka? Sagat?

Sagat's one I hear pronounced differently everywhere.

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

Cameron wrote:

JoshWoodzy wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I say Rye-yoo. It sounds better, and I give zero fucks that it's wrong.

Same. Always known it's not correct, don't care. I blaze my own trail in life, gangstas. And Ree-yoo just sounds goofy. It just makes me picture some overweight Otaku correcting me, holding up his finger "Actually, *huff, pant, huff* it's REE-yoo, peasant!"

The Rye-yoo I mentioned previously gave an already pregnant chick herpes, so it reminds me of that every time I hear someone say it. Sad

You know, now that I think about it, the games have been saying the names every time someone wins at least since SF2: The New Challengers, so I can't think of a valid reason why someone would be pronouncing it wrong at this point.

Because I saw the name before I heard anyone say it, obviously. I said it like Rye-yoo first, too cantankerous to change. Other one just sounds goofy to me. Plain and simple.

Posted: Jan 22 2013 12:09 am

The last several years, I've been practicing proper Japanese pronunciation every chance I get, most often during the inevitable appearances of such names in a movie credits sequence. It's second nature at this point.

Posted: Jan 22 2013 12:16 am

JoshWoodzy wrote:

Cameron wrote:

JoshWoodzy wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I say Rye-yoo. It sounds better, and I give zero fucks that it's wrong.

Same. Always known it's not correct, don't care. I blaze my own trail in life, gangstas. And Ree-yoo just sounds goofy. It just makes me picture some overweight Otaku correcting me, holding up his finger "Actually, *huff, pant, huff* it's REE-yoo, peasant!"

The Rye-yoo I mentioned previously gave an already pregnant chick herpes, so it reminds me of that every time I hear someone say it. Sad

You know, now that I think about it, the games have been saying the names every time someone wins at least since SF2: The New Challengers, so I can't think of a valid reason why someone would be pronouncing it wrong at this point.

Because I saw the name before I heard anyone say it, obviously. I said it like Rye-yoo first, too cantankerous to change. Other one just sounds goofy to me. Plain and simple.

But but but! Ryu and Ken have been yelling "shoryuken" since the very first SF2, and they most distinctly say "sho-ree-yoo-ken", not "sho-rye-yoo-ken". Excuses! Razz

Posted: Jan 22 2013 02:06 am

fuck all that. its RYE-YOU.

Posted: Jan 22 2013 02:38 am

I pronounce it Chun "Lie".