Cameron wrote:

Alowishus wrote: Cameron wrote: i'll_bite_your_ear wrote: There is no fucking around with the characters like Fatman in MGS2 or that stupid bee-controlling guy in MGS3. How was that fucking around? I think with Fatman it's the whole: THERE'S BOMBS IN EVERY STRUT and then you run around doing that and then ANOTHER BOMB in strut A and then fucking fight him and MORE BOMBS. I can't remember bee guy if there was any build up to him but i can sort of recall his fight being annoying? - did you jump in and out of the water and shoot him with the grenade launcher. I fail to find a noticable amount of fucking around in either of these.

It's unnecessary busywork which basically has no real point. The only thing Fatman basically does is blow up parts of Shell 2 so they didn't have to design them by claiming they are flooded. If you removed him from the game:

1. It would make basically no difference plot wise.
2. The game would be way shorter.

Anyway today i failed to play FFV and played RE4 instead from chapter 1-3 to 3-3.

Cameron wrote:

Alowishus wrote: Cameron wrote: Alowishus wrote: Cameron wrote: i'll_bite_your_ear wrote: There is no fucking around with the characters like Fatman in MGS2 or that stupid bee-controlling guy in MGS3. How was that fucking around? I think with Fatman it's the whole: THERE'S BOMBS IN EVERY STRUT and then you run around doing that and then ANOTHER BOMB in strut A and then fucking fight him and MORE BOMBS. I can't remember bee guy if there was any build up to him but i can sort of recall his fight being annoying? - did you jump in and out of the water and shoot him with the grenade launcher. I fail to find a noticable amount of fucking around in either of these. It's unnecessary busywork which basically has no real point. If you removed him from the game: 1. It would make basically no difference plot wise. 2. The game would be way shorter. Busywork? I find it fun. Plus I don't see how making the game shorter would necessarily make it any better or worse, but whatevs.

Well i didn't particularly. My point wasn't the length of the game, my point was that you may well just remove it as it has no actual point.

Cameron wrote:

Alowishus wrote: Cameron wrote: Alowishus wrote: Cameron wrote: Alowishus wrote: Cameron wrote: i'll_bite_your_ear wrote: There is no fucking around with the characters like Fatman in MGS2 or that stupid bee-controlling guy in MGS3. How was that fucking around? I think with Fatman it's the whole: THERE'S BOMBS IN EVERY STRUT and then you run around doing that and then ANOTHER BOMB in strut A and then fucking fight him and MORE BOMBS. I can't remember bee guy if there was any build up to him but i can sort of recall his fight being annoying? - did you jump in and out of the water and shoot him with the grenade launcher. I fail to find a noticable amount of fucking around in either of these. It's unnecessary busywork which basically has no real point. If you removed him from the game: 1. It would make basically no difference plot wise. 2. The game would be way shorter. Busywork? I find it fun. Plus I don't see how making the game shorter would necessarily make it any better or worse, but whatevs. Well i didn't particularly. My point wasn't the length of the game, my point was that you may well just remove it as it has no actual point. I'm not trying to sound like I'm arguing just for the sake of arguing, but I don't really follow what reasoning you're using here. If a specific part of a game doesn't have a "point", then does any part of a game have a point to begin with? I'm just not understanding what you're trying to say.

Lol why does this have to be an argument? I am merely discussing it, no hard feelings or MADNESS. I meant a point in the overarching plot. In terms of the plot in the whole game it is never mentioned again really, the whole Fatman thing. It's not like the presidents rescue. The Emma Emmerich thing is kinda unnecessary to - yes i know you need her computer skills but it could have been anyone who did that and not her. I should have been more clear.

The-Excel wrote:

With a few exceptions, I didn't have any problem with the Metal Gear bosses. The problem I usually have with human bosses in 3D games is that they're able to take 20000 shotgun blasts and rockets to the face before going down and then they have a parting speech afterward. It only makes sense that they could since I can, but in Dead Rising, it just took me out of the game. This was a huge enough problem for me to the point where I couldn't bring myself to go past the second boss.

I mean don't get me wrong, i found Fatman to be a bit dull - especially on replays. I don't really have many problems with any of the bosses, especially their design. All the MGS bosses are fucking retarded. It's just part of the franchise, be it vamp, fortune, psycho mantis, vulcan raven, gray fox, whoever! It would then be foolish of me to say you know Fatman is a stupid boss.

I don't have a problem with Fatman as a boss i'm just saying it's a bit of a dull boss (and the fact you spend a least an hour or two running around all the fucking struts, multiple times, crawling under things just to freeze bombs, it's not particularly entertaining) and the interactions with him don't really achieve anything in the grander scheme of things.