Syd Lexia wrote:

Being natural doesn't make a cure better, and the attitude that only natural cures are acceptable borders on quackery. Bloodletting is natural. Snakehandling is natural. But they're not good medecine. Hell, why not go 100% natural and refuse all medecine and wait for nature to cure you.

I'm all for a natural cure if it's easy to come by and works good, but there is nothing wrong with a trusty bottle of ibuprofen at your side. Call me crazy, but if my doctor tells me I need to take something to get better, I'm gonna take it.

Syd Lexia wrote:

scamrock wrote: Syd Lexia wrote: Being natural doesn't make a cure better, and the attitude that only natural cures are acceptable borders on quackery. Bloodletting is natural. Snakehandling is natural. But they're not good medecine. Hell, why not go 100% natural and refuse all medecine and wait for nature to cure you. I'm all for a natural cure if it's easy to come by and works good, but there is nothing wrong with a trusty bottle of ibuprofen at your side. Call me crazy, but if my doctor tells me I need to take something to get better, I'm gonna take it. I agree. My point wasn't that natural is bad. It's that natural solutions aren't the only solution and they aren't always the right solution. But Aloe is fucking awesome.

Exactly. I'm also slightly bitter because I was this close to getting srewed over by Kevin Trudeau. I almost bought his book off TV because it was free and you only had to pay S&H. My wife told me I should look into it first and maybe see how much it was at Wal-Mart. Good call wife.

Basically, this guy, Kevin Trudeau has a series of books starting with Natural Cures They Don't Want You to Know About. It's good in theory, but it has a lot of anti-government/anti-pharmaceutical company propaganda. He says shit like the government keeps getting him in trouble for giving away secret natural cures that could put the pharmaceutical companies in jeopardy. In truth, the government goes after him because he rips people off.

To start with, in his TV spot, he is very convincing, especially when he says you ONLY have to pay S&H. But they never actually say how much that is. I did some research and found out that the S&H is more than the book!!! What kind of scam is this shit. Then, evidently, you get his book, it doesn't really have the kind of shit in it that he says it does. But it does tell you to subscribe to his pay website where the good stuff is. So once you get on his website, it says to get the good stuff, you have to subscribe to his newsletter. Once you do that, you get these worthless newsletters and when you call to cancel, nobody answers the fucking phone. You spend all this money on his shit, and instead of learning what was promised, you are actually dumber.

He is pretty much like Satan on consumer watch sites. So I emailed his company or whatever the fuck because I was pissed asking some questions to "make sure I didn't get hosed like all these other people." I got a response saying they don't respond to letters like that. WTF? So I sent an email to his Myspace fansite saying I was interested but was afraid of getting screwd out of money. I was just curious what they would say. I have a lot of video game references on my Myspace profile. The response I got said something like, "Like I am going to have this debate with a grown man who still plays video games." I couldn't reply because they blocked me.

So basically, I think natural cures are fine and dandy, but it seems like everyone trying to get people to buy into natural cures like to say the pharmaceutical companies are ripping people off, when in reality, they are usually doing the same thing.

DarknessDeku wrote:

What if the doctor told you to use weed?

Then I probably would. I already said I'm not against it for medical use if it works.

Greg the White wrote:

I'd be more intrigued by Trudeau had I not had the prior knowledge of him being unable to sell anything but books due to fraud convictions, and was recently fined for contempt of court charges during more misrepresentation charges for his weight loss book. That, and the fact that he'll talk about "this lady I talked to" whose cancer he cured. So apparently the guy cures diseases, but wants us to pay $19.99 straight to him beforehand.

No shit. I didn't know about him at first, so I thought it was kind of cool. Now that I know, everytime I see him, I get pissed.

No he has a couple of financial advice books out. That's all I need is some con man with a history of being sued giving me stock tips.