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AncientAtBirth
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PostPosted: Nov 27 2008 05:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Might just be the most fucked up book I have ever read. Seriously.



 
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PostPosted: Nov 27 2008 05:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That's the point of it. You think that the guy is falling into dark temptation by taking advantage of a young girl, but in the end, it was her taking advantage of him.

(Kinda like the plot of "Hard Candy". Which is an awesomely fucked up movie.)
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AncientAtBirth
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PostPosted: Nov 27 2008 05:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Whoa, I TOTALLY disagree with that assessment! She just did what she had to do in order to get away from him. Children are psychologically resilient that way. The reason she fell in love with Quilty is because she saw him as freeing her from Humbert who had become an insufferable tyrant.



 
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PostPosted: Jan 18 2009 06:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

AncientAtBirth wrote:
Whoa, I TOTALLY disagree with that assessment! She just did what she had to do in order to get away from him. Children are psychologically resilient that way. The reason she fell in love with Quilty is because she saw him as freeing her from Humbert who had become an insufferable tyrant.


I'd agree with that view of the book, for sure. However, the movie absolutely comes off the other way. Which is why, despite my deep and abiding love for Jeremy Irons, is why I'm not a huge fan. It turns Humbert into a victim (I think a lot of that comes from how sympathetic Irons' portrayal is, honestly; not his fault but it still fucks things up), and that is just wrong, wrong, WRONG on so many levels. Because whether Lolita was "taking advantage" of Humbert or not, the fact remains that she was like, fucking twelve. And he was like, fucking forty. There is NO excuse for that; the blame squarely falls on the head of the adult in a case like that, regardless of what the child does. Trying to paint Humbert as some kind of victim doesn't fly with my sense of decency at all.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jan 18 2009 08:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I haven't read Lolita, but I am pretty sure that it was very loosely based on the plot of a Billy Idol video:

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PostPosted: Jan 19 2009 12:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
I haven't read Lolita, but I am pretty sure that it was very loosely based on the plot of a Billy Idol video:


I disagree, if it was based on any video, then it would be Oingo Boingo:

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PostPosted: Jan 19 2009 02:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That's the most fucked up thing I've seen in awhile.
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