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Kubo
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 08:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Has anyone seen this? I'm still going back and forth on whether I want to or not. I think I'll most likely find myself in a theater sometime this week watching it, more out of curiosity than anything else. Plus it's getting decent reviews.


Thou, because I am wroth, be not dismayed, for I shall win the strife, whoever circle round within for the defence. This their insolence is not new, for of old they used it at a less secret gate, which still is found without a bolt. Above it thou didst see the dead inscription; and already on this side of it
descends the steep, passing without escort through the circles,
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 10:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm surprised it's gotten so many good reviews... it's seems like it's too soon to do a 9/11 dramatization. I guess it must be very well done.
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 10:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

the review i read about the movie

1. Review from US website -> best movie ever

2. Review from non-US website -> yuck, they warn you: do not see the movie, it's bad, and they tell you the final punch


In conclusion, I'm confused Rolling Eyes
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 11:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Considering that flight 93 has supposedly been seen in use since 9/11 should tell you something about the nature of this movie...


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DarkMaze
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 11:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

Apparently at a premiere screening of some sort, family members were sobbing.

I felt the trailer made it look awfully exploitative, but it sounds like it's actually better than that. However, I think I'll pass for now. Someone referred to the movie as "the most powerful movie no one will want to see" -- or something along those lines. That sounds about right.
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 11:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Considering that flight 93 has supposedly been seen in use since 9/11 should tell you something about the nature of this movie...


That's totally true. Also, the ghost of the train that carried Abraham Lincoln's body from Washington D.C. to Springfield, Illinois can be seen every April travelling through Ohio: http://www.shadowseekers.org/ohiohaunts/abrahamlincolnsfuneraltrain.html
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 11:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
That's totally true. Also, the ghost of the train that carried Abraham Lincoln's body from Washington D.C. to Springfield, Illinois can be seen every April travelling through Ohio: http://www.shadowseekers.org/ohiohaunts/abrahamlincolnsfuneraltrain.html


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Residents of both Urbana and Piqua have reported seeing a ghostly locomotive on the tracks in their area, and unexplained train whistles and smoke plums have been reported.


Smoke plums are delicious.
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 02:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not sure if anyone knew, but apparently several people that were directly involved with the situation were in the movie (like the guy directing the radio control tower).


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PostPosted: May 01 2006 06:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'll probably see it just because I'm interested to see how it is re-enacted. The great part (not great, you know know what I mean) about it is that they had so much to work with because the black box caught a lot of the dialogue. It'll be tough to watch I'm sure, but I'll be in the theater at some point.


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PostPosted: May 01 2006 07:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I wanted to see it this weekend, but failed to...

Instead, I ended up watching both Executive Decision and Under Siege 2: Dark Territory". I bet the people of United 93 want to kick my ass about now.


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Kubo
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PostPosted: May 01 2006 07:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Tebor wrote:
I wanted to see it this weekend, but failed to...

Instead, I ended up watching both Executive Decision and Under Siege 2: Dark Territory". I bet the people of United 93 want to kick my ass about now.



Somehow I think there's a lesson to be learned here somewhere...
I got it:

When a plane is hijacked, we need John Leguizamo.


Thou, because I am wroth, be not dismayed, for I shall win the strife, whoever circle round within for the defence. This their insolence is not new, for of old they used it at a less secret gate, which still is found without a bolt. Above it thou didst see the dead inscription; and already on this side of it
descends the steep, passing without escort through the circles,
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: May 02 2006 12:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Black Zarak wrote:
Considering that flight 93 has supposedly been seen in use since 9/11 should tell you something about the nature of this movie...


That's totally true. Also, the ghost of the train that carried Abraham Lincoln's body from Washington D.C. to Springfield, Illinois can be seen every April travelling through Ohio: http://www.shadowseekers.org/ohiohaunts/abrahamlincolnsfuneraltrain.html


Well Lincoln can't very well drive himself to the cemetary...


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PostPosted: May 02 2006 02:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh sorry, that belongs in the Nintendo thread


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PostPosted: May 02 2006 03:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i'm doubing of one fact, do somebody did a documentary about that flight. i really think that it's not very clear at all. http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

don't bash me as a "panaranoaik conspirator seeker", i just want a fuckin' objective documentary and/or book on that flight. the only thing i know, is that they blured a lot of things about it.

like Descarte, i allways doubt, so we can talk.

as i read the reviews of the movie, the movie didn't bring anything new as a view of that important event. look at the Spielberg movie about Munich, he brings another view of the event, he is not just reproducting in its whole detail the event (probably like United 93)


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: May 02 2006 05:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hey look, it's Charlie Sheen with his wacko theories.

FDR knew about Pearl Harbor beforehand too, and the Moon Landing was faked, wasn't it? Laughing
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: May 02 2006 06:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
Hey look, it's Charlie Sheen with his wacko theories.

FDR knew about Pearl Harbor beforehand too, and the Moon Landing was faked, wasn't it? Laughing


Hey, here's a crazy idea! Why don't you try thinking for yourself? Maybe it is just a crack-pot theory, but there's lots and lots of unanswered questions about every single plane involved in 9/11 and no good answers. So maybe next time, instead of immediately calling someone crazy for going against what the government says, you should look at the facts yourself and not pass judgement on people with opinions different from your own.


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Kurt
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PostPosted: May 02 2006 06:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Cattivo wrote:
Hey look, it's Charlie Sheen with his wacko theories.

FDR knew about Pearl Harbor beforehand too, and the Moon Landing was faked, wasn't it? Laughing


Hey, here's a crazy idea! Why don't you try thinking for yourself? Maybe it is just a crack-pot theory, but there's lots and lots of unanswered questions about every single plane involved in 9/11 and no good answers. So maybe next time, instead of immediately calling someone crazy for going against what the government says, you should look at the facts yourself and not pass judgement on people with opinions different from your own.


Call me naive, but I'm PRETTY sure Cattivo was joking.
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: May 02 2006 06:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Kurt wrote:
Call me naive, but I'm PRETTY sure Cattivo was joking.


Well if so, then I retract. But I'm so sick of everyone who says anything that goes against what the government told us being labelled as "crazy."


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PostPosted: May 02 2006 06:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Kurt wrote:
Call me naive, but I'm PRETTY sure Cattivo was joking.


Well if so, then I retract. But I'm so sick of everyone who says anything that goes against what the government told us being labelled as "crazy."


I'm sick of labeling in general, with "crazy" bieng thrown at people who disagree with the government, and "conformist" shot at people who disagree with THEM, and so on. In particular, I hate it when words like "nazi" and "Hitler" get thrown around. Things today are just not comparable to things back then, and anyone who does so is a dipshit. (How do you like that? I'm such a hypocrite.)

An old theory is if you mention Nazis, Hitler, Germany's WWII state, etc. in an argument while comparing places/people, you automatically lose the argument. I find this fits my views pretty well Smile

Anyway, on the movie: I'll see it if some of my more conservative friends recommend it, because everyone ELSE seems to have a strong opinion on it.Very Happy
Ha ha! Just a little tasteless humor there, designed to provoke angry responses from liberals.
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RegalSin
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PostPosted: May 02 2006 11:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This movie should have never been made and watching this makes you more a loser then the people who was in the planes. When I was in class we could see the spot where the Twin Towers was replaced by a dark cloudy orange sky. Then for the following days from all over the place you could smell various types of smells. I am not talking about mid town Manhattan but piers spreading out miles beyond state limits.

Thinking about this what is really dumb is what kind of people was on the plane to not fight back. They used friggin box cutters not even the heavy dutie box cutters plumbers use for there pipes but the ones mothers used rip open mail.

Speaking of heavy dutie the Box cutters they used even a small child is still allowed to buy these in the stores.

Then again think about it folks out of 100dreds of passengers why didn't anybody said lets pile these %#%uckers there is more of us them them.

Did Timecop or Quantum Leap took place here and swap the passengers for meat dolls like in that movie or was all the people really that stupid to ride on a plane and pay money then board but not say hey WTF my life is in Jeopardy lets ram these mothers off the plane?

Or was it really a cover up and the USA/Fedaralees/Group of 13/VIP/People who probably raised in test tubes killed everybody then paracuted out of the plane leaving the plane on a set course?

Still no this movie is one big bluff and the scumbags responcible for this needs to be caught.

One more thing....
Jihad/Jahad means Holy power. Not some Profit bullshit or somebodys name
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PostPosted: May 02 2006 11:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

"Ladies and gentlemen, the pilot has asked you to return to your seats and buckle your seatbelts as we're expecting turbulence . Jack Bauer is on board."


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PostPosted: May 03 2006 02:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm sorry Regal, but did you just say that the people who made this movie after spending hours interviewing air traffic controllers, listening to black box recordings, and recieving approval from the family of every passenger on board are worse than the terrorists that hijacked the planes?

As for your bullshit conspiracy theories, the idea that our government orchestrated such an attack is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Assassinating a president is one thing, but there is no justifiable reason to perform such a large scale attack on your own country (It's a strange statement I know, but think about it). As for why passengers didn't try to take down the other planes, unless the terrorists announced they had control of the plane then most people probably wouldn't know as every plane I've been on has a curtain seperating the like 20 first class chairs from coach, leaving only the flight staff and those first class passengers who were not asleep/listening to headphones and oblivious to witness the hijacking. I am merely speculating as I don't know the details of how things went down on the planes themselves, however even if people knew you think they'd all try to take down the plane? That takes balls. HUGE balls. In a situation like that most people would do their best to stay calm and hope that the military or some other force is able to regain control of the plane. You can say whatever you want about those people, and I know I wouldn't be one of them because I'm too full of rage, but that plan makes enough sense to keep yourself from helping force down the plane thusly ending your own life and the lives of all those around you. Is that gonna happen anyway? Good chance, but there's always the hope that another party could intervene.

Last but not least, I understand that English is not your first language, but "100dreds" is not a word OR number. It's one thing to come here and spout semi-retarded elitist conspirator bullshit, but to tell other people to think and expect us to respect your opinion while showcasing that not only do you have a tenuous grasp of the English language, but of language itself? "100dreds" is not a typo. There is no way to accidentally type that.

#mods: Time to lock this thread? This is going to turn into a flame war, and after that post I'm not above taking part in one.


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Kurt
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PostPosted: May 03 2006 02:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
Last but not least, I understand that English is not your first language, but "100dreds" is not a word OR number.


Hey, it would be a lot worse if he said 1,000dreds.

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
As for your bullshit conspiracy theories, the idea that our government orchestrated such an attack is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

It ties in for first with me, as far as extremely unprobable/ridiculous things, with theories that the US caused events such as Hurricane Katrina, earthquakes, etc. I don't blame people for having their own opinion and not wanting to follow the government on everything, but there's no need to be so extreme about it that you immediately blame the US for every little thing, even when it's obviously not US-engineered. I mean--er--

Okay, you can lock it now. Smile

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PostPosted: May 03 2006 02:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

Flaming is bad, but it's a necessary evil sometimes. Honestly though, this post bothered me even more than people saying the government used its secret weather control technology to cause Hurricane Katrina. That may be bullshit too, but at least I've heard from a fairly reliable radio program (though I have not fact checked this) that the US did at one point have some sort of very unsuccessful weather modifcation program.


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PostPosted: May 03 2006 02:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

See, exactly what I'm talking about. You don't even want to entertain the idea that 9/11 was anything other than what the government TOLD you it was, don't even want to hear it. You wanna tell me how a 127 foot wide 757 bounced off the lawn of the Pentagon without leaving a single scratch? How it only left a sixteen foot wide hole in the wall? How an aircraft that weights some odd amount of tons and was travelling at high speed only broke the first ring of the Pentagon? You don't want us to spout conspiracy theory bullshit, but you come in here like you got told by God himself that it all happened exactly the way Bush told us it did. I had respect for you, seeing as you are Syd's brother, but I see now that you are unworthy of said respect. Of course, what does my opinion matter? I'm just a crackpot!


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