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Joined: Sep 17 2007 Location: The Opium Trail Posts: 3474

Thanks for posting that and great job! I was waiting for that right after I read its older brother the "100 greatest NES games."

Here are my thoughts.

-Fuck you I liked Super Mario All Stars. (though that might have to do with my NES breaking on me as a result of repeatedly leaving it on all night long and my parents never getting a replacement).

-Mega Man X2 is the best Mega Man game ever. It had a double blast super shot for christ sake! Speaking of Mega Man X, Zero doesn't give you his "Z-buster" in the first game, or at all for that matter, he gives you his sword (which was still awesome) he gives it to you in the 3rd game, if you kill Vile before you get to Doppler's fortress that is. But that's a different discussion.

-I liked the polygons in the original Star Fox. I loved the polygon bosses even more. That game was fucking impossible though, I never made it past the first "Great Commander" ship on the hard route.

- I agree Zelda III was the best SNES game, though Super Mario RPG was a close second. Although Zelda III had a slightly higher replay factor. Once I beat SMRPG, I didn't really wanna play it again for a while. Plus Zelda III had something SMRPG didn't...THE BOMBOS MEDALLION!

Posted: Dec 04 2007 12:44 am

Yeah, great article. I have so many games to try out.

Although I do have one thing to say: I think Cybernator should be replaced with Metal Warriors. MW is in the same series, but it's way better. The storyline blows and the faux space shooter sequences were lost, but there were a bunch of different suits usable, you could get out of your suit and fly around to get into other suits, and the multiplayer was kickass. If you haven't played it, I recommend trying it out. It probably wasn't on the list because Cybernator is more common, and Metal Warriors is rarer. God, those multiplayer sessions of Metal Warriors on my friend's SNES were kickass.

I do have a question: Syd, if you do another "Top 100 Games" article, can I help out?

Also, sorry for the sort of fucked up post. I just spent 3 hours trying (without success) to balance my checkbook, and I'm wiped. But hey, at least I have more in my account instead of an overdraft, right?

Posted: Dec 04 2007 12:54 am

Well, good job.

All the games I would've guessed were on that list. Also, I may get crucified for saying this, but I have never played Chrono Trigger in my fuckin' life.

Also, yes, I too loved Super Mario All Stars and Megaman X2.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 06:40 am

X2, Earthworm Jim 2, and DKC2 are all definitely better games than their predecessors, but I guess being the game that started the series helped the original games rank higher.

Mr. Bomberman wrote:

All the games I would've guessed were on that list. Also, I may get crucified for saying this, but I have never played Chrono Trigger in my fuckin' life.

It happens, you know? RPGs take forever to play, and we all have at least one major RPG we just never got around to playing. I haven't played any Final Fantasy game past VII for any significant amount of time. I have, however, played a fan-translated version of the original, harder version of Final Fantasy IV where Rosa can Pray, Tellah can Recall a random spell, non-Paladin Cecil has DarkWave, one of the elemental fiends is teh naked, and you can get the Porno Mag.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 12:06 pm

hey syd, did you know the page for 91: Sunset Riders isn't there?

Also, the fact that Chrono Trigger came in at #6 kicks ass- CT is an awesome game, and I find it hard to choose which is better between CT and Link to the Past

Joined: Sep 17 2007 Location: The Opium Trail Posts: 3474

Syd Lexia wrote:

X2, Earthworm Jim 2, and DKC2 are all definitely better games than their predecessors, but I guess being the game that started the series helped the original games rank higher.

It happens, you know? RPGs take forever to play, and we all have at least one major RPG we just never got around to playing. I haven't played any Final Fantasy game past VII for any significant amount of time. I have, however, played a fan-translated version of the original, harder version of Final Fantasy IV where Rosa can Pray, Tellah can Recall a random spell, non-Paladin Cecil has DarkWave, one of the elemental fiends is teh naked, and you can get the Porno Mag.

I kind of understand that, but then you might as well put the Original Mega Man game at the spot where Mega Man III is on the the Nintendo list and put Super Mario Bros. where SMB III is. Just because the game was the first of the series doesn't make it the best.

I have never played any RPG's other than "Link To The Past" and SMRPG. I respect those types of games, but I can never find the time to sit down and play them.

(By the way, sorry for posting this in the wrong forum, I couldn't find which forum we were supposed to put article threads in, despite the fact that "Feedback" says it right there)

Posted: Dec 04 2007 03:31 pm

Mr. Bomberman wrote:

All the games I would've guessed were on that list. Also, I may get crucified for saying this, but I have never played Chrono Trigger in my fuckin' life.

I never played that game either.

But im sure this next statement will make someone's blood boil: I have never played a Final Fantasy game ever. I never had the luxury to buy/rent them, and now that im older I dont have the time/money to acquire them.

I bought FFIV about a year ago, but some friend borrowed it and hasn't returned it. Same thing w/FF Tactics. I bought them both for the GBA.

At any rate, I thought the article was well written but I didnt agree w/how MK3 was ranked SOOOO high.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 04:01 pm

I've never played any FF game either. In fact, the only RPG I have ever played by myself and beaten in its entirety (sp?) is Super Mario RPG. I did, however, watch a friend play through most of FFVII. Man, middle school was a good time for video games.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 04:41 pm

JRA wrote:

I kind of understand that, but then you might as well put the Original Mega Man game at the spot where Mega Man III is on the the Nintendo list and put Super Mario Bros. where SMB III is. Just because the game was the first of the series doesn't make it the best.

I agree, and I personally ranked the sequels higher.

I think I might have even had Super Adventure Island II higher than the original on my list.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 04:53 pm

dummies_ch2 wrote:

hey syd, did you know the page for 91: Sunset Riders isn't there?

It's fixed now. I don't know what the hell happened. All I can say is, thank god for Dreamweaver's file cache.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 07:45 pm

Grimmriffer wrote:

I've never played any FF game either. In fact, the only RPG I have ever played by myself and beaten in its entirety (sp?) is Super Mario RPG. I did, however, watch a friend play through most of FFVII. Man, middle school was a good time for video games.

Cool, now I dont feel like a total outcast on this.

I have played Dragon Warrior I, II, and III all the way thru for several hundred hours. I played Kingdom Hearts I + II. I played Shining Force I + II on the Genesis, but I was never able to play SF CD which is the one I really really wanted to play.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 07:57 pm

Dragon Warrior III is completely awesome.

Posted: Dec 04 2007 09:58 pm

Gotta say, I've been a fan of tetris Attack for a while, and I'm glad your article got me playing it again. And Super Turrican is fucking awesome.

Title: Armed to the teeth Joined: Mar 06 2007 Posts: 139

I enjoyed all of the Megaman X games equally. The first one has the best mavericks, the second was just plain enjoyable, and the third had Neon Tiger and a playable Zero.

And, while Zero is a much better character, you still have to give X credit for fueling one of the funniest anime stereotype spoofs ever.

Oh, and by the way, concerning space shooters, the Genesis had Thunder Force III and IV, which were both awesome. The forth game had some of the best music I've ever listened to on a Genesis system.

And Megaman 7 sucked, in my opinion. The scale was awkward, most of the robot masters sucked (except for Freezeman and Slashman), and the sound effects were absolutely terrible. Oh well, at least the 8th game and R&F were a little better.

Posted: Dec 05 2007 03:18 pm

WCW Superbrawl was so cruddy that it was awesome. I paid $29 for it used and felt no remorse at all. Kirby

Joined: May 20 2007 Posts: 12

Well I have not got around to it yet but I will give it a good look when i get a chance.

Joined: Aug 24 2005 Location: Mount Holly, NJ Posts: 1062

How about a little love for Lagoon, a very underappreciated RPG IMO. I can see how it's not for everyone though.

Joined: Aug 24 2005 Location: Mount Holly, NJ Posts: 1062

Solid calls on just about everything else though... ::applause::

Posted: Dec 05 2007 10:14 pm

MOGHARR wrote:

Gotta say, I've been a fan of tetris Attack for a while, and I'm glad your article got me playing it again.

Tetris Attack is probably one of my favorite puzzle games ever. i remember my mom and her friend would be on vs. mode for 10 minutes at a time. And not because they sucked either

Posted: Dec 05 2007 10:18 pm

Never played Lagoon. I played a fan-translated version of Bahamut Lagoon though.

Posted: Dec 06 2007 12:27 am

I love how Battlemaniacs made it.

Joined: Aug 24 2005 Location: Mount Holly, NJ Posts: 1062

Syd Lexia wrote:

Never played Lagoon. I played a fan-translated version of Bahamut Lagoon though.

I don't think many people have. It's never mentioned as a classic SNES game. It feels a lot lot Soul Blazer, but with different battle mechanics. Some of the best music I've heard on the SNES, and that's saying something. It probably rivals Mega Man 2 in catchy music.

Posted: Dec 06 2007 12:15 pm

When I said I only played Mario RPG I lied. I played Earthbound too. Got all the way to the end and never beat Gygas because I didn't know about Paula's "prayer."

I like RPGs, but I also kinda suck at them. Therefore, I don't play them too often.

Joined: Apr 14 2006 Location: Lake Michigan Posts: 3332

I was surprised Super Mario Kart and Star Fox didn't make the top ten. Hell, Star Fox was the very reason I bought an SNES. Before that, I was content with my Genesis and its sports dominated catalog.

Just with the NES article, I'm surprised by how much taste in genres can be subjective. I rarely played rpgs back then, so I never even heard of a lot of those games. I was too busy playing crappy SNES sports games like "Tony Meola's Soccer" and "Stanley Cup". I guess I was more of a Genesis guy. I basically just used my SNES for games that ported better on that system, like MK2, or for cool games that weren't available on the Genesis, like the aforementioned Star Fox & Super Mario Kart.

Posted: Dec 08 2007 01:37 pm

Star Fox is indeed ridiculously awesome. I was surprised Contra III didn't make Top Ten.

The SNES wasn't really known for its sports games. It had some good ones, but people seemed to prefer sports games on the Genesis.