I have a friend who is a Trump supporter (I would say not Trump's typical supporter type, from what I have seen) and he says that he is supporting Trump because he is just like all of the other politicians, except he is more honest that he is a sleazeball. My friend also claims that it doesn't really matter who the President is anymore, as most can't really make any real progress given the state of congress nowadays (I am inclined to agree with that point). He thinks that if Trump were to be elected, the country wouldn't really expect much from him (low bar) and if he really fucked things up it might cause people to enact some much needed overhaul of how our government functions.

I would say he definitely is not the typical bigoted idiotic Trump supporter, and he has some interesting points. Maybe there would be a silver lining in Trump becoming President, who knows?

How about vote for nobody because it's a waste of time/crock of shit. Popular vote means nothing, just ask Al Gore. Presidents are just puppet figureheads. Trump doesn't scare me with nuclear codes. You really think anyone would just let the President launch nukes without some sort of military conference and approval? Obama can't even close down Guantanamo, I doubt Trump would just be able to lob nukes at the middle east or wherever.

Whoever gets elected is just going to continue the same policies that have been in progress since the early 1990s. If you can't see that clearly by now, then you have been successfully distracted. Congratulations.

He keeps trying but has not been able to close Guantanamo, if you were to believe the multiple different news sources who have claimed as much. His most recent attempt was very much shut down by the military.

As for the nukes, well, there has been several times in history where orders were given or where people were supposed to authorize an attack/counterattack due to instrumental readings or direct orders and yet the people who could have made the choice decided to not authorize it. It is my belief that the President does not really have the unilateral power of making this choice anymore, if the office ever really did, and it wasn't just a cold war era scare tactic used to dissuade the Soviets from doing something dumb. I would bet my life that if Trump or anyone else were President and tried something so dumb there would be a coup or they would likely be ignored. Launch codes used does not equal immediate launching of nukes. There are multiple failsafes in place, and in the end it does require additional people to authorize the ACTUAL launching of any missiles.

That's also besides the point where the US would first have to remove all of its people from the region, which takes time. Time which would make an excellent opportunity for a good portion of the general population to flip the fuck out over such a decision. Such a foolish attack would have to also take into consideration a complete shift in how every country in the world operates after the fact. It would probably require a large scale strike against both Russia and China in addition, because otherwise it would just be the start of everyone turning against America to wipe us of the face of the Earth.


And regardless of all these what-if scenarios, someone that reckless would never make it into the office of President unless they were being tightly controlled. Humans, while often stupid do have this wonderful trait called self-preservation which usually (thankfully) comes out on top when the shitheads try to fuck everything up.

I think I need some drugs.

Cameron wrote:

GeorgeTaylor wrote: I think him standing up to people taking responsibility for offending other people is his highest strength Fixed.

This is actually something that aggravates me these days. Nobody wants to say anything that will offend anyone, and when people do offend someone, or a group of people, there are demands made to apologize. It is fucking ridiculous. Unless someone is chasing you around and harassing you, you have the option to just ignore it and move on.

Cam, I actually find your views on this subject offensive personally, but I would never expect you to apologize and take responsibility for your views as if they were contrary to your beliefs, which is what people seem to want these days. You can't force people to change their beliefs, that is something they have do on their own time and of their own volition.


While it is nice to see a political candidate stand up to political correctness, it would be nice if it was someone more credible and sane than Trump. Not that any sane person would ever run for President nowadays.