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Posted: Jul 14 2015 08:45 pm

I dunno, my initial assumption that Jesse Eisenberg was horribly miscast as Lex Luthor was not challenged by the trailer. I want my Lex Luthor to be smarmy, menacing, and intimidating, and his rendition of Lex Luthor just kind of seems like a generic brat.

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Agreed. I'm super sold on Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne, but good lord, Jesse Eisenberg actually seems and acts younger than his character from fucking Zombieland in that trailer.

Posted: Jul 15 2015 01:26 am

I still feel like they are trying to cram too much into this movie. They should have done more to build up to it.

Posted: Jul 15 2015 11:48 am

I agree with Sideway that there's gonna be too much. Apparently Doomsday is going to be in the movie, which is retarded. This trailer definitely got me a little more excited. But all of this is just build up for Green Lantern Corps in 2020 for me haha

I was satisfied with the Suicide Squad trailer. I'm excited for Margot Robbie as Harley, and I'm definitely down with Will Smith as Deadshot. Killer Croc and Katana looked super cool. Joker didn't totally grab me, but did leave me wanting more.

Posted: Jul 15 2015 05:48 pm

I'm not keen on Jared Leto as Joker. I immediately wrote him off when I saw the first picture (the fucking grills just ruin it for me), and the very brief time he's in the trailer just makes me think he isn't going to be anything other than mediocre. I know it isn't fair to compare his performance to Heath Ledger's, but it doesn't really look like they're even trying.

Posted: Jul 15 2015 08:07 pm

I have this feeling his performance is going to be a real sleeper. And I don't know if it could be the most beloved Joker, but that's almost impossible against Jack Nicholson, Mark Hamill, and Heath Ledger.

Posted: Jul 17 2015 03:56 am

i have very little knowledge of suicide squad. i mean, i know who the characters are, but i dont know their story, nor am i interested in it. that being said, the trailer grabbed my attention and im looking forward to watching it.

Posted: Jul 17 2015 10:01 am

Well, we’ve all seen the trailers now. Watching the current WB/DC “We must catch up with Marvel” cinematic universe gradually be revealed is like watching a car crash in slow motion.
Obviously we need to actually watch Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad before final judgement can be passed, but the trailers make one thing fairly clear: the casting is terrible and the world being presented is just…..ugly. Not deliberately so, in the way that many depictions of Gotham’s backstreets has been rendered by people with an actual flare for imagery; I mean it’s uuuuugly. Urban decay has a macabre charm. What we’re seeing here is just a charisma-free mess…..of which the walking, talking embodiment is that new “Joker”.
When it was first announced that Jared Leto was playing the role, I looked the guy up. He struck me as your run-of-the-mill, bland, Hollywood pretty-boy. The kind of blank canvas you actually need to paint a character as big as The Joker. Unfortunately, the artist obviously doesn’t know what The Joker looks like, because they’ve given us Keith f**king Flint.

The latest Bats v Supes trailer also shows us Jesse Eisenberg’s Lex Luthor for the first time.
A lot of people were saying “wait and see” and pointing toward the “Attention” monologue from The Social Network ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6f-6l0W-0o ). Well, I waited and now I’ve seen it, and if that “The Red Capes are coming!” line in the trailer is the example they chose to try and get us hyped, god knows how devoid of personality the lesser parts of his performance will be.

Why the f**k wasn’t Ben Affleck cast as Lex Luthor?
His performance in Runner Runner was PURE Luthor: a charming villain who lures everyone over to his side so that he can manipulate them into doing what he needs them to.
We could have had that…..but we’re getting Eisenberg: An actor only really suited to providing the default voice on a SatNav.

Posted: Jul 17 2015 01:08 pm

lordsathien wrote:

Well, I waited and now I’ve seen it, and if that “The Red Capes are coming!” line in the trailer is the example they chose to try and get us hyped, god knows how devoid of personality the lesser parts of his performance will be.

My thoughts exactly.

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Do you have any original thoughts lordsathien or are you just quoting random blogs and shit like usual?

But anyway yeah, Eisenberg just makes me cringe when he says that line, I had to cover my ears it was so bad.

As for Leto as Joker, it could work. Every version of the Joker on film has been different. The clip of him with tattoos and a grill is clearly a flashback of him torturing Quinn, so maybe he'll look different in the modern time, who knows. Honestly, he'll probably be in the film very little compared to everyone else so I don't really care. At least he sounds better than Heath Ledger. I think he sounds more like Mark Hamill honestly. Ledger's audible lip smacking with every word was gross and distracting.

Another line I cringed at? Will Smith's "Let's go save the world." I think it's in his contract to say that in every goofy fucking action movie he's been in.

Posted: Jul 17 2015 08:40 pm

JoshWoodzy wrote:

Do you have any original thoughts lordsathien or are you just quoting random blogs and shit like usual?

Yeah what? I saw that a sizable portion of his post was just copied and pasted from somebody's deviantart page.

Posted: Jul 18 2015 01:40 am

im with woodzy on this one. jared leto might work. its a different take and i can dig it. honestly, if they tried to copy romero, nicholson, or ledger they would just say its a cheap ripoff of so & so. so i feel they are forced to change it up each time. and if jared leto sucks... i can always watch him get his face pounded in on fight club.

Posted: Jul 18 2015 03:10 am

I've heard one theory that this Joker may actually be a delusional Jason Todd.

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My expectations have been lowered by these recent trailers...but not altering the fact that I'll see batman v supes in the theatre, & adding suicide squad to my Netflix queue, solely cuz of Harley.

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lordsathien wrote:

I've heard one theory that this Joker may actually be a delusional Jason Todd.

That would be incredibly awful and dumb. I can only hope it has no basis in reality.

Posted: Jul 29 2015 11:53 pm

I've realized something else after rewatching the latest trailer for BvSDoJ WTF BBQ; Eisenberg is the perfect model for a different villain from out of Marvel's wheelhouse. The annoying smart-alec tone, the outfit, and the hair doesn't scream Luthor to me. No, I think that this portrayal would be PERFECT for Arcade.

Posted: Jul 31 2015 12:42 pm

Holy shit, totally!

Posted: Dec 04 2015 09:43 pm

saw this last trailer. i liked it, but the reveal of doomsday kind of took away from the whole batman vs superman hype for me. i wanted to see them fighting more.

either way im excited, but i think the civil war trailer had WAY WAY WAY more hype to it

Posted: Dec 05 2015 04:07 pm

Yeah, they showed way too much in that last trailer.

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Yep, that new trailer made the whole thing look fucking awful. The cute quips "I thought she was with you!" made me cringe SO HARD. They work when it's Marvel characters for some reason, because that's just how they are in their universe. The shot of Batman, Superman and Wonderwoman slowly sauntering towards the camera looked like a FUCKING HARDEES COMMERCIAL OR SOME SHIT. Seriously, I gasped and looked away from the screen. Christ Almighty.

Jesse Eisenberg is just so bad. Sure, he'll go bald and be a mean baddy guy grr when not in public but I don't care. His banter with Clark and Bruce was AWFUL AS FUCK. "Ohh, Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne, wouldn't wanna fight this guy, hyuck hyuck hyuck!" Oh fucking die. We get it, they'll fight for real later in the movie. Die.

Posted: Dec 11 2015 02:40 am

This is like if Freddy vs Jason had Michael Myers, Pinhead, Chuckie, Leatherface, Leprechaun, Dr. Giggles, and the fucking Alien all show up. If the premise of your movie is two rivals finally meeting and facing off, only focus on those two in the title.

Posted: Mar 09 2016 05:47 pm

The latest trailer (yes, it's like six weeks old) won me over. There are still eye-rolling parts, but I'm digging it. Pretty sure it's mostly because it's all edited to Queen.

Posted: Mar 23 2016 11:07 pm

The magnitude to which I cringe every time I have to see Harley Quinn or Jared Leto's Joker is unreal. The rest of the movie may be decent, though.

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sidewaydriver wrote:

I still feel like they are trying to cram too much into this movie. They should have done more to build up to it.

This post was very prescient. I just saw Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Grim Homoeroticism tonight, and, well, there was like seven different movies all trying to happen at the same time. I will say, in this film's favor, that somewhere inside the clusterfuck was a really good Batman movie.

Posted: Mar 29 2016 01:21 pm

I also saw Batman v Superman and have to agree that it was a clusterfuck, but I would love to see a standalone Batman film based around this version of Batman. Affleck actually did good job and is now probably in my top 2 of Batmans on film.