Yeah there is one of these threads out and about.

Drums.


Amps, yeah this side of my room has shit piled high lol. The product of being a student and doing ones thesis lol.


4 string bass, 6 string bass, 6 string electric, 6 string acoustic, one can of harp which i am currently drinking.


Guitar pedals - one distortion, one fuzz and one phase shifter.

JRA wrote:

It looks like you have two ride cymbals. I used to have a cherry red Yahama 5 piece drum kit. I eventually got an iron cobra double kick along two crashes and a ride, but it was so beat up/rarely got time to play it that I eventually sold it.

On the left is a 20" Zildjian ZXT Ride.

On the right is a 18" Zildjian Z Custom Rock Crash.

Most of my kit isn't set up as i rarely play it so i have to set it up and take it down after playing. I could have stuck the toms on but i've grown to dislike them as my playing is more groove orientated and doesn't contain many fills.

I never took to double kick, it's a waste of time for me as it's not in my playing style and the style i enjoy playing in, it's not utilised in basically all the music i listen to and despite blast beats (which i have zero intention to ever play as it's dull noise) you can do enough with a single kick a la John Bonham:

Rake wrote:

JoshWoodzy wrote: Agreed. I've played for almost 20 years and have zero desire to utilize a double kick. Almost everything I hear it in is just goofy and disguises an utter lack to actually utilize a regular kick like you're supposed to. It's lazy, basically, in my opinion. I know lots of death metal and the like use it, and that's fine or whatever, it's just not for me. The fuck? Really? I mean for triplets and d-beats single is always better. Even some metal guys are lazy in that they double kick blasts instead of using single, but for fast 16th and even 32nd note kicks it's anything but lazy, and utterly impossible to replicate with a single pedal. I implore you to listen to this track in its entirety and tell me whether or not you maintain your standpoint of "laziness" You'll have to give it a good 4 minutes before you start to hear the awesome extra kick beat in his "triplets" and the double pedal barrage in the outro is fucking incredible. If you dont bang your head to that, you dont have fuckin' ears. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6bheSTLGP8

I'm conflicted on this.

Double kick gets to a stage where the speed becomes irrelevant. It's just a blur of notes and sounds like shit, to me personally anyway.

Double kick can be extremely lazy. What i was referring to in my post anyway is where a drummer plays double kick which can be played on a single kick.

LRLRLRLR on double kick can easily be replicated on single kick to a great speed. Even triplets can be replicated fairly well. If you use the correct technique aka heel-toe you can play single kick extremely fast and depending on the artist to the speed that you can see some metal drummers play.

Although it sounds highly unrealistic it is possible and i doubt many people can do it. I mean for me personally it is not something i aspire to because double kick sounds pretty boring to me like i said in my previous post and the genres of music i play are more groove related and double kick doesn't really allow for much groove music.

I usually refer to this guy because he's one of the drummers these days who there are a lot of examples of ridiculous single kick playing.



Like from 1:24-1:50 is pretty high speed but to me just that playing under straight 8ths or whatever is extremely shit.

To understand what i mean, take the drums in the intro to this song:


Boring as fuck at whatever speed it's played.

The other thing i hate about double kick is that it's always heralded as being the most amazing thing ever by non-drummers. Especially guitarists.

I can't begin to count the number of times i've heard guitarists say to their drummers in their metal band to play using double kick because it's so synonymous with metal that every drummer MUST play that way in that style of music.

It's absolutely ludicrous. Don't get me wrong. Double kick can be done well. I mean i am not a fan but i've heard a few Lamb of God songs were the kick was decent, however that doesn't change the fact that the kick could be played on a single one for that song.

The other thing is speed and i can vouch for this because i used to be like this myself when i first picked up drums. The people who think to be a good musician is to be able to play fast. That is bullshit.

This i've seen is pretty common as well with metal musicians. Oh you have to play x bpm and you have to play it using double kick because your the drummer.

Again, ludicrous. It is so overdone and is so uninspired these days.

Sure in 1983 it was hot shit but now i hear it and i'm like "oh it's this again".

Music is about good songwriting and not how fast you can play or if you use double kick.

EDIT: and i listened to that song. It is exactly what i talked about above.

I mean the song was actually decent but then it just had the generic stupid double kick shit.

Listen from 4:25 to 4:35 see those random blast beats? They are not needed at ALL in the song. The tempo of the song is not as fast as that double kick so it sounds really out of place.

It seems to be to just be stuck in there because "oh look its a metal song and ergo it's required". The drums to me in this song do not belong in this song.

See if i was the drummer on that song do you know what i would have put instead of
ten thousand bass drum hits? I would have put a single hit. The drums really do ruin the song. I really can't get over this.

Again hit 6:19 there's that boring, souless drone of bass drum again. It's just the same shit over and over. I really can't stand it.

Drumming isn't meant to be a showcase of your skill or how fast you play (as with any instrument). It is about writing the part which complements the song and the drumming in that song does not compliment the bass, vocals or guitar which is actually decent.

Fair enough if you like it but i think it's truly dreadful and in that song particularly so. I remember Rake speaking to you when Diamond Eyes came out.

Imagine if Deftones just threw repetitive LRLRLR over parts of their songs. It would sound fucking terrible don't you think?