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A kidnappers favorite kind of parent.


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Tishwitch
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 06:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sock wrote:
You're going to make a great middle aged housewife who writes into Reader's Digest about what's wrong with America.


Only 3 problems with that:
A) I don't want kids
B) I've never read Reader's Digest
C) I have no desire to be a housewife, I'm career driven

But good theory... not. Cool


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FNJ
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 09:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think he meant that as a generalization.

you'll more than likely become one of those suit and glasses wearing uppity types that feel the need to tell people how to raise their kids in the middle of a supermarket.

or one of those people that feel it's their need to yell at someone for taking a kid into an r rated movie.


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Tishwitch
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 09:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow... if the people who really knew me read this, they would laugh! Valdronius will likely laugh his ass off at this! I am not uptight at all. I have strong opinions, and I feel that certain people in this world don't deserve to have children if they can't take care of them. But, I'm not uptight.


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Sock
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 09:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You said yourself you never plan on having kids. So, you have no right to tell anyone with kids if what they're doing is right or wrong.


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Valdronius
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 09:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think everyone has the right to tell abusive parents that what they're doing is wrong.


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A Hispanic dude living in Arizona knows a lot of Latinas? That's fucking odd.

 
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Morphine Jim
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 09:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sock wrote:
You said yourself you never plan on having kids. So, you have no right to tell anyone with kids if what they're doing is right or wrong.

That is an incredibly flawed argument. I don't want to have kids, but I think I have a right to tell someone who wants to fuck them or hit them or kill them, for example, that they're wrong. Having direct experience is in no way, shape or form an entitlement to exclusive opinion. Just because I don't want to have children, it does not deny me the ability to recognise when a child is being treated poorly.

To think otherwise is just incredibly inane.


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Sock
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 09:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Of course common sense and decency apply, but just because a parent left their kid in their car when they went into Wal-Mart or wherever doesn't mean they're a bad parent. It's not like they were beating the kid.

Did anyone see my post earlier in the thread?

Sock wrote:
Kids are fucking punks. Should the parent take the kid in screaming "I DON'T WANNA GO IN!", and walk around with their kid screaming "I WANNA GO HOME!"? If they did that, you'd complain about the parent not disciplining their kid, and if they did smack their noisy, whiny kid, you'd complain about them abusing their child.

There's no winning with kids.


You know, this one?


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Valdronius
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 10:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Solution: hire a sitter, or use a daycare, or ask a favor of a friend, or send them to a friend's house.

The only time I get mad at parents for lack of discipline is when I'm trying to play mini-golf and one of six stupid kids runs onto the course, picks up my ball and brings it to his mother like some sort of fucking prize and she just smiles at him. Then, to add insult to injury, I'm the one who ends up in jail after I bludgeon the entire family with my club.


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A Hispanic dude living in Arizona knows a lot of Latinas? That's fucking odd.

 
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Morphine Jim
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 10:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Valdronius wrote:
Solution: hire a sitter, or use a daycare, or ask a favor of a friend, or send them to a friend's house.

Ding ding. We have a winner.

I would be pissed a screaming child in public, yes. And I would be pissed at a kid left vulnerable in a car, yes. The key? Keep the child somewhere safe. If you can't do that, then why did you have a kid?


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Tishwitch
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 10:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sock wrote:
Kids are fucking punks. Should the parent take the kid in screaming "I DON'T WANNA GO IN!", and walk around with their kid screaming "I WANNA GO HOME!"? If they did that, you'd complain about the parent not disciplining their kid, and if they did smack their noisy, whiny kid, you'd complain about them abusing their child.


You haven't heard a kid who makes a scene in a store until you've seen my sister. She's fine now, but until she was 12 or 13, you couldn't bring her anywhere! We now know that she couldn't help it, but at the time it was quite embarrassing. She would scream, yell, kick, and cry to get toys and whatnot in stores. She had to be left at home with my mom when we would go shopping. It was just crazy. So, don't ever think I don't understand what it's like to have a child who is out of control. You have no idea what it's like to have a child, or sibling in my case, with a pervasive developmental disorder. (my sister has Asperger syndrome if anyone didn't know)

As for spanking children, so long as it's a reasonable force, I have no issues with it. It falls within the law.

"The Supreme Court of Canada recently reaffirmed the right of a parent or guardian to use corporal punishment on children between the ages of two and twelve; this decision was contentious, being based upon S.43 of the Canadian Criminal Code, a provision enacted in 1892" (wikipedia)

http://canada.justice.gc.ca/en/news/fs/2004/doc_31114.html


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Sock wrote:
Of course common sense and decency apply, but just because a parent left their kid in their car when they went into Wal-Mart or wherever doesn't mean they're a bad parent.


Yes it does. It makes them neglectful. Leaving your child unattended in a car or public place puts them at risk of being hurt, running off, being kidnapped, or worse. I hope you're kidding about this, and just trying to piss people off. If you're serious, I strongly suggest parenting classes before you have children. This is not an insult, it's more of a semi-professional opinion.


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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't.

Want your kid to be worse? Beat 'em.

My friend's brother... his mom beat him all the time... 2 months ago, he stabbed his mom for beating him oh-so-many times. He's in juvy now.

So I don't agree.
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Valdronius
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well yeah, there's a difference between corporal punishment and beating. I had corporal punishment in my home and we all turned out fine... you know, if you don't count the family I killed with a putter.


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A Hispanic dude living in Arizona knows a lot of Latinas? That's fucking odd.

 
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I wasn't that troublesome as a child, but when I was out of line, my grandmother would hit me with the fly swatter. Not incredibly hard, but enough to make me look and think about what I was doing. It would sting like hell though.

I definitely do NOT like the idea of using a belt. That's like imitating a whip or something. If I had kids, I would use my hand, but it's more direct and it serves the purpose as long as you don't get crazy with it.


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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Morphine Jim wrote:
Valdronius wrote:
Solution: hire a sitter, or use a daycare, or ask a favor of a friend, or send them to a friend's house.

Ding ding. We have a winner.

I would be pissed a screaming child in public, yes. And I would be pissed at a kid left vulnerable in a car, yes. The key? Keep the child somewhere safe. If you can't do that, then why did you have a kid?


bullshit. there's no reason to have to hire a sitter or go out of your way to find somewhere to stuff a kid so you can run to the grocery store. tell the kid to shut the fuck up and get in the car, then tell them to shut the fuck up and go in the store.


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Morphine Jim
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
Morphine Jim wrote:
Valdronius wrote:
Solution: hire a sitter, or use a daycare, or ask a favor of a friend, or send them to a friend's house.

Ding ding. We have a winner.

I would be pissed a screaming child in public, yes. And I would be pissed at a kid left vulnerable in a car, yes. The key? Keep the child somewhere safe. If you can't do that, then why did you have a kid?


bullshit. there's no reason to have to hire a sitter or go out of your way to find somewhere to stuff a kid so you can run to the grocery store. tell the kid to shut the fuck up and get in the car, then tell them to shut the fuck up and go in the store.

Actually, you won't hear an argument from me in favor of proper discipline. If you have a kid that'll comply to that, excellent. If not though, those incapable need to store their little cunt-escapees elsewhere.


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Sock
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
Morphine Jim wrote:
Valdronius wrote:
Solution: hire a sitter, or use a daycare, or ask a favor of a friend, or send them to a friend's house.

Ding ding. We have a winner.

I would be pissed a screaming child in public, yes. And I would be pissed at a kid left vulnerable in a car, yes. The key? Keep the child somewhere safe. If you can't do that, then why did you have a kid?


bullshit. there's no reason to have to hire a sitter or go out of your way to find somewhere to stuff a kid so you can run to the grocery store. tell the kid to shut the fuck up and get in the car, then tell them to shut the fuck up and go in the store.


Wouldn't it be lovely if it were that easy Jew? Like I said, kids are punks. They're not going to listen.


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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JEW beat me too it. Expecting someone to hire a sitter or daycare center if you have to run an unexpected errand is bullshit. Then again, I also don't think those who don't want to have kids should really care what other people are doing with theirs. And I'm sure now, but what about when you get to vote on a tax increase for yourself to fund things like schools or libraries? You can tell me you'd vote for it, but I won't believe you so I'm just gonna call you a hypocrit now for pretending to care about children.


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Sock
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2007 11:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

All right, everyone. Swing that judgemental pendelum the other way. Imagine you have a kid, think about all the obligations you're putting on yourself, all the compromises you're making, and all the obligations you want to put on your friends and family. Think about that.

There's no fucking winning with kids, if a parent let their kid win every battle, you'd say they're spoiled. If they left the kid at home, they'd be irresponsible (really, what's a kid going to do at home for an hour? Really. Let's be logical here. If you're a responsible human you hid all the shit the kid could use to hurt himself). If they take the kid into the store screaming and crying, they don't discipline their child, but if they leave the kid in a car, they're neglectful.

Stop pointing the finger, and put yourself in the parents shoes.

I don't want kids, I've thought about all the ins and outs of raising a child, and I realize it'd be a pain in the ass. I want everyone else in this thread to think about all the obnoxious kids you see, and really think what it'd be like having to take care of that kid. Don't say you'd be willing to put up with all the bullshit, and do all the right things, because you wouldn't. Would you always pay a baby sitter $20 to watch a kid at home for an hour? Would you always shovel your 40 pound obligation on your friends? Would you always make sure your kid was properly disciplined? No, you wouldn't. You wouldn't be a perfect parent, so when someone has to make a compromise and leave their kid in a car for thirty minutes, don't write them a note. That is fucking arrogant.


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Tishwitch
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PostPosted: Jan 28 2007 12:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sock, people like you make people like me happy. Because one day, when I finish school and become a social worker, I'll have stacks and stacks of files on horrible parents who neglect their kids. I don't want children to be neglected or abused, but it'll keep me employed. So, thanks for being you.


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PostPosted: Jan 28 2007 12:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

Oh Sock, if Angie said you were having kids, you'd have kids.


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Tishwitch
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PostPosted: Jan 28 2007 12:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Jan 28 2007 02:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

Tishwitch wrote:
Sock, people like you make people like me happy. Because one day, when I finish school and become a social worker, I'll have stacks and stacks of files on horrible parents who neglect their kids. I don't want children to be neglected or abused, but it'll keep me employed. So, thanks for being you.


That doesn't make sense, nor is it relevant, and neither is it pertinent to the discussion. Are you saying I'd make a shitty parent?

You suck at trolling.


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PostPosted: Jan 28 2007 02:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Tishwitch wrote:
Sock, people like you make people like me happy. Because one day, when I finish school and become a social worker, I'll have stacks and stacks of files on horrible parents who neglect their kids. I don't want children to be neglected or abused, but it'll keep me employed. So, thanks for being you.


I'll have you know that there were plenty of social workers in my life when I was growing up, and not one of the decisions that they made on my behalf benefitted me.

I think your type would make a horrible social worker, and to be quite frank I fear for the families that you will fuck up.


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PostPosted: Jan 28 2007 02:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

Once again, another thread made by Tishwitch that needs to be locked.

Oh, and just so I stay on topic here, what's better than having sex with a 5 year old that you found unattended in a Wal-mart parking lot?

having sex with a 5 year old that you found unattended in a Loveworks™ parking lot.

Kinky.


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PostPosted: Jan 28 2007 02:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

RandomFarthead™ wrote:
Once again, another thread made by Tishwitch that needs to be locked.

Oh, and just so I stay on topic here, what's better than having sex with a 5 year old that you found unattended in a Wal-mart parking lot?

having sex with a 5 year old that you found unattended in a Loveworks™ parking lot.

Kinky.


You sir, you need to post more.

And I fucking mean that. No joke emoticons here.


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