I remember that critique of Green Day from back in the day. Although, back then, people said all their songs were based on the same three chords. I don't know anything about the guitar. All I know is that when I saw them in concert in '01 they kicked ass.
I of course don't like them now, Minority and every album since has sucked, and they've compensated by going political.
Another example of two songs that sound eerily similar, is the recent single from the band, The Dreaming. They're the successor band to Stabbing Westward, having the same lead singer, Chris Hall, and their drummer is Johnny Haro of Econoline Crush fame.
The single is Every Trace, and the beginning sounds too much like Marilyn Manson's Beautiful People:
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Jan 06 2012 09:17 pm
I don't hate Green Day by any means. I haven't listened to them past American Idiot but the patterns they use are ridiculously simple. Not all their songs use the same chords as i posted. The chords in the examples were all Db5, Gb5 and Ab5. They do obviously use other chords but those where basically the main riffs/hooks. There are other chords used which follow the same patterns.
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Jan 07 2012 12:26 pm
Quote:
I haven't listened to them past American Idiot but the patterns they use are ridiculously simple.
I think the industry term for that is "Punk".
Not that I dislike the stuff. The Ramones were even worse about it. I swear that band only did about 5 actual songs. The rest are just recycles.
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Jan 07 2012 01:14 pm
I thought the Ramones were awesome.
"If you try to fix violence, with more violence, all you do is create violence" - Tom DeLonge.
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Jan 07 2012 01:16 pm
They are. But their style isn't exactly diverse.
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Jan 07 2012 08:57 pm
Of course Doesn't have to be for it to be good though.
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Jan 08 2012 11:45 am
See, I like the Ramones style punk. A catchy riff, a catchy chorus. Yes, that's what rock and roll is supposed to be about.
I don't like the style of punk that bands like Anti-Flag, Black Flag, and the Sex Pistols play. It's angry, talentless noise.
I like the Sex Pistols because I find that they can have an angry message behind it, yet still be catchy as hell. I agree with you on stuff like Anti-Flag though. I find it somewhat scary to listen to.
Another good band is the Descendants. Catchy stuff yet it's still got the speed and edge of punk.
I'm glad I finally found someone that shares my stance on this.
"If you try to fix violence, with more violence, all you do is create violence" - Tom DeLonge.
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Jan 08 2012 03:30 pm
The Descendents are good. So is Bad Religion, if you're going for that sort of thing.
I'm with Syd here. I don't care much for 80s punk. I do like the Sex Pistols, but a lot of bands out of the 80s just made a lot of noise.
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Jan 08 2012 08:13 pm
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Jan 11 2012 06:39 pm
Great call Etch.
The intro to Metallica's Fade To Black and the theme to whenever an NPC dies in FF IV.
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Jan 12 2012 11:04 am
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Jan 12 2012 11:20 am
No one has said Creed and Days of the New yet?
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Jan 16 2012 09:29 pm
This was probably intentional, but the first minute or so of GNR's Breakdown sounds like an awful lot like The Garden.
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Jan 17 2012 11:42 pm
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Jan 18 2012 03:12 pm
Three songs that mesh so well, the DJ didn't really have to do anything to mash them:
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Jan 18 2012 03:52 pm
The Ting Tings do a lot of that stuff. Their song Shut Up and Let me Go is a dead ringer for Blondie's Rapture, if not in sound than in spirit
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Jan 19 2012 07:34 pm
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Feb 17 2012 09:47 pm
I never noticed this until yesterday.
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Feb 17 2012 09:58 pm
Another one people like to point out is Green Day's "American Idiot" has some similarities to "Doublewhiskeynoice" by The Dillinger Four. "Idiot" was released 6 years after "Double..." and just 4 years after Billy did a split album with D4 while in a side project called Pinhead Gunpowder.
So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind.
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Feb 17 2012 10:13 pm
Also something I never noticed before... I feel kinda' oblivious now
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Feb 18 2012 11:36 am
Etch wrote:
I never noticed this until yesterday.
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought of that one. Another one:
Doesn't have to be for it to be good though.
I feel kinda' oblivious now
