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Dr. Jeebus
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JoshWoodzy
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So scientists poke holes in another scientists theories 60 years later?
Shocking.
From the article:
"Chang Kee Jung, a neutrino physicist at Stony Brook University in New York, says he’d wager that the result is the product of a systematic error. “I wouldn’t bet my wife and kids because they’d get mad,” he says. “But I’d bet my house.”
Jung, who is spokesperson for a similar experiment in Japan called T2K, says the tricky part is accurately measuring the time between when the neutrinos are born by slamming a burst of protons into a solid target and when they actually reach the detector. That timing relies on the global positioning system, and the GPS measurements can have uncertainties of tens of nanoseconds. “I would be very interested in how they got a 10-nanosecond uncertainty, because from the systematics of GPS and the electronics, I think that’s a very hard number to get.”
So basically, it's a big ass "maybe".
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GPFontaine
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I imagine that it remains true that things that are faster than the speed of light would not be visible... right?
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Dr. Jeebus
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Andrew Man
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Alowishus
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http://static.arxiv.org/pdf/1109.4897.pdf
Here's the paper ^
Also:
don't you recognise? i've rocked the boat again.........: if something goes faster than light
don't you recognise? i've rocked the boat again.........: would it be visible?
Michael: it doesnt emit em radiation, so it wouldnt be visible
Michael: its not charged
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GPFontaine
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| Dr. Jeebus wrote: |
| I don't think they'd be invisible, they just wouldn't be visible until after they passed. Like the craziest Doppler effect ever. |
While moving faster than the speed of light I imagine that we would not see them, however we would see their direct impact on the environment they move through. Also we would see the effect of them speeding up to and down from the threshold of light.
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lavalarva
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| Dr. Jeebus wrote: |
| I've always said that the speed of light being the fastest anything can travel was total bullshit, and I never understood how Einstein or anyone else intelligent would arrive at this conclusion. |
Because the law of relativity says the faster a particle goes, the heavier it gets. I forgot the exact formula, but at 99% of light speed you'd be about twenty times heavier.
Speed of light is the limit, with the mass multiplier being infinity at that point, which means you'd become a black hole or some other nonsense crap.
The reason photons can move at light speed is that, at a speed of zero, they'd (apparently) have a mass of zero, and infinity x zero = indeterminate number.
So, unless I misinterpreted a bunch of stuff about relativity, it says it's impossible. Of course, it doesn't necessarily means the theory of relativity is completely true, though as of now that's the best we have.
There's some pretty fucked up stuff up there, you never know.
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
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So, what, making a lucky guess and being right makes you smarter than Einstein?
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Alowishus
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| UsaSatsui wrote: |
| So, what, making a lucky guess and being right makes you smarter than Einstein? |
Not even that, he didn't back it up with proof lol.
It's like me saying, i think evolution is wrong, i provide no proof that it is wrong, i provide absolutely no theory to it, then its proven wrong and then i go HAHAH DAWKINS/DARWIN FUCK YOU I AM SMARTER.
Even though i didn't even provide a theory lol.
Of course i know this isn't serious. 
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Dr. Jeebus
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My comment was a joke, but the concept that nothing can go faster than light is retarded. Scientists have this incredible desire to interpret the limits of what we know (black holes, speed of light, etc.) as some form of fucking magic, as though entering a black hole will transport you across the universe instead of just kill you.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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i can appreciate them believing that the speed of light would be the fastest ever, considering that light is how we see things. so if it goes faster, then we cant see it and be able to measure it.
i understand its limiting especially w/the technology we have nowadays, but its not idiotic for people to have believed the speed of light was the fastest. lol i mean we thought the earth was flat back in the day, and that the sun orbited the earth.
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Valdronius
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I'm smarter than Einstein too. I didn't fail algebra.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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| Valdronius wrote: |
| I'm smarter than Einstein too. I didn't fail algebra. |
haha touche
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| I'll eat a turkey sandwich while blowing my load |
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RegalSin
Joined: Apr 24 2006
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What's the smartest thing ever to come out of a woman's mouth? Einstein's cock.
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UsaSatsui
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Optimist With Doubts
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| Valdronius wrote: |
| I'm smarter than Einstein too. I didn't fail algebra. |
That is a common misconception. Einstein was excellent at math. Ok maybe not excellent but far better than the average joe.
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UsaSatsui
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| Optimist With Doubts wrote: |
| Valdronius wrote: |
| I'm smarter than Einstein too. I didn't fail algebra. |
That is a common misconception. Einstein was excellent at math. Ok maybe not excellent but far better than the average joe. |
You can be excellent at a subject and still fail a class on it.
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Ky-Guy
Title: Obscure Nintendo Gamer
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I've read about that recently. I wonder what kind of things we could do if that is accurate.
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Greg the White
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| Optimist With Doubts wrote: |
| Valdronius wrote: |
| I'm smarter than Einstein too. I didn't fail algebra. |
That is a common misconception. Einstein was excellent at math. Ok maybe not excellent but far better than the average joe. |
You can be excellent at a subject and still fail a class on it. |
The whole "Einstein sucked at school" thing is believed to have strated as some bullshit in Ripley's Believe it or Not, where most of the "facts" were crap that the author thought he heard somewhere. Einstein was incredibly intelligent and always received great marks, his only scholastic failure being the time where he failed the entrance exam for the Polytechnic University of Zurich.
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So here's to you Mrs. Robinson. People love you more- oh, nevermind. |
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username
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im pretty sure valdronius was being facetious
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Anthraxinsoup
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Einstein wasn't the brightest man ever. Most of his stuff before had been done before, and E=MC2 has been doubted for a long time, but it's still a good theory. But the thing is, all we have is theories on stuff like this.
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lavalarva
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I don't know why E=mc2 is being doubted, but the whole fucking point of science is to doubt current theories to be able to make progress anyway. And after like 100 years it still holds true,
even though since then we invented computers, "discovered" stuff like dark matter and dark energy and have some new utterly incomprehensible theories like quantum physics.
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Anthraxinsoup
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| lavalarva wrote: |
I don't know why E=mc2 is being doubted, but the whole fucking point of science is to doubt current theories to be able to make progress anyway. And after like 100 years it still holds true,
even though since then we invented computers, "discovered" stuff like dark matter and dark energy and have some new utterly incomprehensible theories like quantum physics. |
Quantum physics has helped prove E=MC2 least semi-wrong.
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lavalarva
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