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FNJ
2010 SLF Tag Champ
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Green text is a nwo thing.
Also, girls have cooties.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
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Well, clearly the green text is needed outside of the nWo.
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Klimbatize
2010 NES Champ
Title: 2011 Picnic/Death Champ
Joined: Mar 15 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4975
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What happens in the nWo, stays in the nWo. And green text happens in the nWo.
As do Porn-Offs.
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Syd Lexia
Site Admin
Title: Pop Culture Junkie
Joined: Jul 30 2005
Location: Wakefield, MA
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That's super queer that Knyte and I have to face off against the Metal Sharks, just because our matches finished first. There should have been random pairings.
I'll tell you all right now, Sharks vs. Knights is the real main event and whoever wins it is taking the whole thing. This I guarantee.
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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
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Location: That Rainy State
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Klimbatize
2010 NES Champ
Title: 2011 Picnic/Death Champ
Joined: Mar 15 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4975
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Syd Lexia wrote: |
That's super queer that Knyte and I have to face off against the Metal Sharks, just because our matches finished first. There should have been random pairings.
I'll tell you all right now, Sharks vs. Knights is the real main event and whoever wins it is taking the whole thing. This I guarantee. |
I realize that right now you're just pretending to be a dumb, obnoxious, asshole who likes to shit on a huge portion of your forum community, but I'll bite. You seem to have a lot of fanboys who don't realize that and just blindly agree with whatever you spew.
We already had random pairings. It happened after the first round. Then this thing called a bracket was put together. You've seen a bracket before, I'm sure. They use them in the NCAA tournament, the NBA Playoffs, the NFL Playoffs, the NHL Playoffs, the MLB Playoffs...hell, even fucking soccer uses them. And so does the Forum Battle.
The Forum Battle bracket has been available ever since the first round. It's in this post, that Satsui has updated all tournament long with updates:
http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=238399#238399
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Syd Lexia
Site Admin
Title: Pop Culture Junkie
Joined: Jul 30 2005
Location: Wakefield, MA
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Brackets are dumb. I'm going to run FB 2011 and the pairings will not be random or brackets. Instead, I'll choose the pairing each round based on what I think is entertaining. Each round will have at least one DRAMATIC BATTLE where there's an interesting story behind the match.
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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Why do I have the feeling that I already know who I'll be put up against first round (and whom I will also destroy)?
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Who likes role-playing games? Me. Way too goddamn much. |
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Klimbatize
2010 NES Champ
Title: 2011 Picnic/Death Champ
Joined: Mar 15 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4975
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Syd Lexia wrote: |
Brackets are dumb. I'm going to run FB 2011 and the pairings will not be random or brackets. Instead, I'll choose the pairing each round based on what I think is entertaining. Each round will have at least one DRAMATIC BATTLE where there's an interesting story behind the match. |
That...actually doesn't sound too bad.
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SoldierHawk
Moderator
Title: Warrior-Poet
Joined: Jan 15 2009
Location: San Diego, CA
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JonSnow
Joined: Nov 03 2006
Posts: 763
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In bracketing they also have this thing called "seeding" designed to do what Syd is talking about, and not have two solid teams have one knock each other out in the beginning. I think for our purpose a randomly started bracket is a decent way to do it, but lame things can happen.
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The One Truth Will Prevail
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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So looking forward to seeing how Syd assigns these things in a completely non-random or bracketed fashion. Yes, I sure am. Much like Klimb, I think not assigning people randomly or using bracketing has some merit to it. But what does everyone else think?
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Who likes role-playing games? Me. Way too goddamn much. |
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
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The problem with assigning "interesting matches" is that it's not fair. You can essentially pick who's gonna win the whole thing.
I did consider seeding, but seeding by what?
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Klimbatize
2010 NES Champ
Title: 2011 Picnic/Death Champ
Joined: Mar 15 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 4975
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SoldierHawk wrote: |
The Batman/Joker and favorite beverage/toilet water analogy made my year. I'm still laughing my ass off |
Heh, I'm quite proud of that analogy.
From a competitive standpoint, I do think the rest of the participants were a bit lucky you weren't around for the first couple of rounds. Would have been a different Battle, for sure. As far as entertainment value, I do wish you had been able to participate. Would have been fun.
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Syd Lexia
Site Admin
Title: Pop Culture Junkie
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Location: Wakefield, MA
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Fernin
Title: Comic Author
Joined: Dec 12 2008
Posts: 1179
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Post count doesn't mean much, I've been here well over a year and a half and haven't even hit 600 posts year, whereas we have a couple folks who've been here half a year and have twice that.
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Syd Lexia
Site Admin
Title: Pop Culture Junkie
Joined: Jul 30 2005
Location: Wakefield, MA
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Post count is a gauge of participation, and it's the only fair way to do it.
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JonSnow
Joined: Nov 03 2006
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The problem with assigning "interesting matches" is that it's not fair. You can essentially pick who's gonna win the whole thing.
I did consider seeding, but seeding by what? |
Ya abuse is a concern, but it doesn't have to be the case. Obviously even the most possible abuse, which i don't think will be an issue, could not garuntee you a win for whatever team you like best.
Another possible way to seed, would be by experience. What i mean is just have the moderators get together, look at the teams who applied. And they have a good idea of whose who on the forum, they'll know basically who is the #1 seed so to speak, the most favored, and who else is close, and spread them out on the initial brackets, to offer a more dramatic build up for forum battle.
You wouldn't want the experienced well known, and or just well liked posters all to kill each other off at the beginning, then the last match up is them first some random people, and they just win the final match up by a landslide.
Post count might be another relevant benchmark, and the only thing this seeding match ups would effect is the starting up of the initial bracket.
There are many ways to do it fairly... but obviously certain ways make for more climatic/dramatic battles.
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
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Post count might work, I did consider it last time.
The random bracket draws, though, are a lot of fun, and tend to bring a lot of people into the room.
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Klimbatize
2010 NES Champ
Title: 2011 Picnic/Death Champ
Joined: Mar 15 2010
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I think random seeding is the only fair way to do it. Who's to say who's a favorite and who's not? I had teams like Forumers of Light and the Robotcock as teams to beat in the whole thing. Others didn't see it that way, obviously. Having even a small group of people decide on seeds would be too subjective. You could also wind up with more blowouts in the first couple of rounds then you saw in this year's.
Even using post count as a way to seed people has its obvious flaws. The Forum Battle is more about having some fun, creating stuff, talking shit, playing characters, etc. then making sure we have it as planned out as a professional sport's playoff system. The randomness adds to the fun.
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JonSnow
Joined: Nov 03 2006
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The forum can do it however they want.. I don't think spreading out teams is bad, it's obviously done in many real life brackets. Just put some people on the top part of the bracket others on bottom fill in the rest let it go. This is about fun, and if that's more entertaining so be it.
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Arg Usa, copying my idea of copying Sehk!!
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Arlock41
Title: Naunie
Joined: Dec 07 2008
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JonSnow wrote: |
The forum can do it however they want.. I don't think spreading out teams is bad, it's obviously done in many real life brackets. Just put some people on the top part of the bracket others on bottom fill in the rest let it go. This is about fun, and if that's more entertaining so be it.
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At least Satsui did it right.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
Joined: Jul 06 2007
Location: phoenix, az usa
Posts: 16123
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Klimbatize wrote: |
The Forum Battle is more about having some fun, creating stuff, talking shit, playing characters, etc. then making sure we have it as planned out as a professional sport's playoff system. |
until people start complaining about "too much campaigning"
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I'll eat a turkey sandwich while blowing my load |
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
Location: Hiding
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This can be destickied at your earliest convenience. Thanks.
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FNJ
2010 SLF Tag Champ
Joined: Jun 07 2006
Posts: 12294
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Syd Lexia wrote: |
That's super queer that Knyte and I have to face off against the Metal Sharks, just because our matches finished first. There should have been random pairings.
I'll tell you all right now, Sharks vs. Knights is the real main event and whoever wins it is taking the whole thing. This I guarantee. |
looks like syd can predict the future.
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