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Knyte
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Well, about two months ago, I decided that I wanted to build a Multimedia PC for my livingroom. Something I could play emulated games on, record TV, and watch DIVX, MPEG, AVI, etc with on my TV.
Then I decided, it would be even cooler to model it after a old game system, because that was going to be its primary purpose. So, after doing some digging online I decided to try my own hand at a NES PC.
The NES makes a great canidate for such a project because, you can do the alterations, without changing the appearance of the NES shell. The CD/DVD drive can be hidden under the flip lid, and the NES case is big enought to hold a Micro ITX MOBO, the PSU, a Hard drive, and a laptop CD/DVD rom.
So, the first thing I did was find a suitable NES for the project. I didn't want to kill a working one, so I found a non-working "AS IS" one on E-Bay. $12.00 (Shipping included) and a week later the NES arrived at my door.
So, I gutted it like a fish, and then started looking at the buttons on the front and thinking how easy it would be to rewire them to work for the PC. After killing the traces on the buttons' PCB with a dremel, I took the wires out of an old PC case, snipped the buttons/LCDs off and soldered them onto the buttons on the NES. I also had to remove a small metal bracket off the POWER button so it would act as a momentary toggle switch, instead of a locking switch, so it would be ATX compliant.
Then, I decided I wanted a HDD light, as well, so I took one out of the same old PC case, and drilled a small hole next to the RESET button, and slid the LED through. I locked it in place with a low temp glue gun. (Which you can see in the above picture. It's the orange and white wires coming from the right side.)
Here's a view from the front of the NES:
Next, I have to wait until I have an extra $150 or so, so I can order the ITX board and PSU. Here's the one I have in mind:
It's a all in one MOBO, with a 1.5GHz CPU, 64MB Onboard Video, 5.1 Sound, and has a TV out on the back, as well as SATA connectors, which will work with a 40GB SATA 150 2.5" Hard Drive I have lying around.
So, until I can get the MOBO, that is all there is too it.
STAY TUNED!
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Char Aznable
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Cool shit, man. I wish I had the money to build my own computer, but I'm broke.
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Mr. Bomberman
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That'd be pretty cool, especially for Internet gaming..
Planning to buy USB NES controllers after the motherboard?
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Knyte
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I don't know. At this point I am debating on either usb gamepads, or xbox controllers. (I have a 2 X-Box ports to USB adapter.)
Given the graphics chip, I don't think this will play anything 3D. (No PSX, N64, Saturn, or better.) Neo Geo, SNES, NES, and Genesis will be the main systems. So at most I need 8 buttons and a joypad.
Maybe I should just buy SNES 2 USB adapters.... Hmmmm....
Anybody got any good ideas?
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Syd Lexia
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Yeah, the SNES controller is probably a good candidate. I wouldn't recommend the MS Sidewinder for old school games, because the directional pad sucks.
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Knyte
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The best controller I have found for MAME and console emulators, is the Wired Xbox 360 controller. I don't even have a 360, but I read that the controllers work great for PC, and they do. But then again, I guess it is a Microsoft controller running in Windows... so bread and butter.
It even works great for PSX and N64 games. I just beat Castlevania:SOTN with it.
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FNJ
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I saw one of these that had the mouse and keyboard wired into the P1 and P2 controller ports. you should do that.
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shiny
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I've actually made a working box like the one you're talking about, just from a full-size desktop PC (in horizontal case), mainly 'cause I have no money for "micro" stuff. But I've bought pretty case . It's Celeron 2.4, 256MB of RAM and FX5200 graphics. I use Linux with MythTV on top, and lots of emulators. List of emulated platforms is quite long: nes, snes, genesis, n64, psx, mame, dos (with dosbox), Linux native games (like Frozen Bubble, Blobby Volley, FRETS ON FIRE), and I even run bunch of Windows games with WINE (Thony Hawk, Carmageddon). Besides from pretty menus, MythTV provides me a nice audiocd/digital music player, picture gallery, and dvd/vcd/divx playback (from local dvd drive and network share). I use generic USB PC joysticks and configure them with QJoypad - a tool which "emulates" keyboard, so all apps can be controlled with them. I'm quite happy with my consoles functionality, it's just a little big, and not too quiet (bot it's not noisy either, its just I'd like it to be noiseless).
If you have any questions/ideas I'd be happy to discuss.
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FNJ
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I'm gonna buy one of those small compaq computers to put my mugen on.
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Sock
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I'm gonna slap together a dedicated emulator box someday. Playing MAME on my PC monitor is kinda lame.
I'd definitely grab a couple SNES/USB converters (if it's going to be a dedicated emulator box). You can't beat the SNES controllers for games that were meant to be played with a D-pad.
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FNJ
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Knyte wrote: |
The best controller I have found for MAME and console emulators, is the Wired Xbox 360 controller. I don't even have a 360, but I read that the controllers work great for PC, and they do. But then again, I guess it is a Microsoft controller running in Windows... so bread and butter.
It even works great for PSX and N64 games. I just beat Castlevania:SOTN with it. |
I agree. it's excellent. I use it for EVERYTHING. once I get a dedicated computer for my mugen, I'm gonna use a remapping program to make some of the unneeded buttons work as debug keys, then I'm gonna repaint the contrllers.
sock, if you need a SNES styled D-pad, get the gamestop brand 360 controller. it's almost the same type of pad.
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Sock
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I'm rockin' the original XBox controller, the fat one. It's my favorite controller, it's the most comfortable one I've used, but man, the d-pad is ass. I'm gonna grab a wired 360 controller for my PC anyway, I have two giant Xbox controllers for use on my PC. No one ever wants to use those controllers but me.
And all this talk of 360 controllers reminds of this debacle, check it.
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FNJ
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Sock
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I kinda want it. I'm attracted to awful gaming peripherals, and consoles.
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FNJ
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I used to collect the stuff.
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FNJ
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you know, I bet if we all hung out in this topic and made fun of tish, she'd never read it.
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Sock
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I want an N-Gage, and a Virtual Boy. But N-Gages are still like $200, wtf? They're worthless. Virtual Boys are like $75-100. I'd drop $100 on one, I don't think I'd pay any more than that, though.
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DarkMaze
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Sock wrote: |
Virtual Boys are like $75-100. |
Bwah?! I got mine for $30 from KayBee when the system went belly-up. $100 is cuh-razy.
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Sock
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Well, I got a Game.com for $20 at Kay-bee a week after it came out! Beat that.
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FNJ
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I bought a game gear with two games and assecories at K mart a few years ago for like fifty bucks. they had some kind of deal with sega and ended up getting all the remaining copies of the long dead system.
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Murdar Machene
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10 bucks from Radio Shack for a converter. Here's my controller. I fuckin' HATE the d-pad on playstation pads, but are you honestly going to use an X-BOX CONTROLLER for fighting games? If so, you've already lost, let's play some Street Fighter Alpha 2.
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Mr. Bomberman
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Does it work good with shooters? count me in! I always wanted to play Salamander, or TwinBee Yahho-! with analog.
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FNJ
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to be honest the 360 controller is perfect.
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Knyte
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JEW wrote: |
to be honest the 360 controller is perfect. |
I second that.
Also, if you want to play arcade games correctly and not spend $100 on a X-Arcade controller, see if you can hunt one of these down:
It's called the "Real Arcade" and is made by Pelican. They made ones for PSX/PS2, Game Cube, and X-Box. Also there is a Universal one that has plugs for all three. So, if you already have a PC converter for any of those systems, then hunt one down. They are solidly built (That solid wood, baby!), and as far as I can tell, they seem to use Happ sticks and buttons.
I picked one up about a year ago from Gamestop for $40, and couldn't be happier. Well, I could, if I could hunt down a second one, for some 2 player action. For some reason they are next to impossible to find anymore.
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