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Marijuana. Just legalize it FFS...


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thenose_knows
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Location: Raleigh, NC
PostPosted: Feb 04 2015 02:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
I am a father of three, work 45 hours a week in a career (Not just a McJob) doing something I love. I make decent money. I live in a house. I pay my taxes, own two cars free and clear, and have no criminal record. I also like to smoke the green. I will smoke a bowl on Friday/Saturday nights after the kids are down, and I am ready to relax on the couch and play some games or watch movies with my wife. I find it preferable to alcohol, as I personally have lost my taste for it due to dealing with too many alcoholic friends in my younger days.

I'm am sorry if you find me annoying, but I really don't think I am in any way shape or form, an "irresponsible loser."

Hmmm, this gets me thinking. It seems similar to police officers; the good ones will remain in media obscurity because they're just doing what they should be, while the news is happy to plaster the bad ones in your face for weeks on end. As a result, a lot of people only come to think of the bad ones. I reckon weed is like that, too. The reason you don't know many good pot-smokers is because it's a very passive hobby for them and they don't broadcast it, so you tend not to think of them when you think of the group as a whole.

Your story single-handedly expunged all the pot-related rage that California instilled in me. Best wishes, man.
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PostPosted: Feb 04 2015 07:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

aeonic wrote:
Don't feel bad. Not all slicks are wicks, and not all wicks are glicks, but there's still some slicks out there making the rest look bad. Same shit happens when you've got some sloshed frat boy passing out in the street covered in piss and you compare them to a doctor that likes a glass of scotch after their shift. No matter what the substance is, there's always someone who's the worst-case-scenario example. Shit, I've met functional crackheads, which is super scary to think about.


Yeah speaking of "functional" crackheads or other "functional" heavy drug users...

I might have posted about this before but I have personal experience with one such individual. This person also happens to be one of the wealthiest people on the planet. A multi-billionaire with a crack/cociane/meth addition. Let me tell you, there is nothing more horrifying than someone with that much money combined with that sort of habit. This individual is Henry Nicholas III, the cofounder of Broadcom. If you own any sort of electronic device it most likely contains a microchip made by this company.

Henry initially bought the technology that he used to create his company from the defense contractor I currently work for to found Broadcom (and matter of fact is an an ex employee of said contractor). My uncle worked for him for years and lived right down the street from him and eventually bought one of his old houses and they became close friends. Then things started to go downhill pretty quick due to Henry's drug abuse.

When you have this much money and a drug habit things get stranger than fiction. In one instance crashing his Lamborghini and paying off an ex cop and former bodyguard to take the blame for what would basically be a DUI. Then he started illegally tapping his employees phones and was so paranoid that he had said employees trailed daily by police officers wearing gorilla masks. One of these employees was my uncle.

My uncle started to fear for his life in a very real way. When shit started to go down hill my uncle tried to GTFO. Henry responded by trying to throw my uncle out of one of his private Lear jets at 40,000 feet which would have killed everyone on that plane if he succeeded.

Then one day my uncle wakes up to the FBI breaking his door down at 5 am, where they nearly shot one of his dogs and pulled him in for questioning. Basically they were going after my uncle for something called "smurfing" (look it up too much to explain). He was "smurfing" broadcoms financial accounts to fund Henry's drug habits and sex addiction out of fear of his own life. The FBI were really just after Henry and not my uncle...

Henry was using this money to finance a 40 million dollar sex dungeon beneath his mansion and underneath his own wife's nose. This sex dungeon was straight up bat cave shit. He had candlebras to pull and all sorts of secret entrances into this layer. He would often times take his wife on trips to Hawaii so that the contractors could work on this sex dungeon (which was called Panderosa BTW). Also it should be mentioned that he had armed militia with military grade rifles guarding its construction. My sister went on one of these trips and he being high as fuck and as wealthy as he was treated everyone like shit.

Problem is he got impatient with how long it was taking for his bat cave/ sex dungeon construction. So he had an exact replica of it made roughly five miles from his house. He even went so far as having the foundation replicated.

I mean we are talking millions of dollars on each "Ponderosa". Persian carpets, high end AV equipment ect. On top of those costs.

This eventually led to his downfall as he failed to pay the contractors on top of being responsible for one of the largest insider trading incidents outside of Enron/Worldcom. Thus the reason why the FBI started to pay attention.

He did all sorts of crazy shit. One time he came to a pretty fancy hotel in LA wearing night vision goggles for some strange reason with two prostitutes under each arm. Later that night he used equipment to project porn unto the wall of the hotel from the back of his limo "jacking off" with the hookers on each side of him.

However, when you have this much money, guess what happens to you legally? Absolutely nothing. He is a free man and got off and avoided all charges.

It is also worth mentioning that he is responsible for California's "Three Stikes Law" (long story but it has to do with his dead sister). Regardless he committed far more than three felonies and should be in prison on a life sentence under his own law. But nope he is a billionaire so...

Yet people are in prison for smoking pot or for being in possession of it for decades.

Anyways there is an interesting article from Vanity Fair on Henry/Nick. It is quite long but is well worth the read, and frankly unbelievable...

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/11/nicholas200811
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@om*d
Title: Dorakyura
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PostPosted: Feb 04 2015 08:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I can only imagine what kind of horrible sex trafficking someone is involved in if they build two 40 million dollar sex dungeons. What a horrible person... No... just no.


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GeorgeTaylor
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PostPosted: Feb 04 2015 10:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte's response alone would have convinced Ronald Reagan to smoke weed.

Whats good enough for the Gipper is good enough for me.

/thread.


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Knyte
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PostPosted: Feb 05 2015 12:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

thenose_knows wrote:
Knyte wrote:
I am a father of three, work 45 hours a week in a career (Not just a McJob) doing something I love. I make decent money. I live in a house. I pay my taxes, own two cars free and clear, and have no criminal record. I also like to smoke the green. I will smoke a bowl on Friday/Saturday nights after the kids are down, and I am ready to relax on the couch and play some games or watch movies with my wife. I find it preferable to alcohol, as I personally have lost my taste for it due to dealing with too many alcoholic friends in my younger days.

I'm am sorry if you find me annoying, but I really don't think I am in any way shape or form, an "irresponsible loser."

Hmmm, this gets me thinking. It seems similar to police officers; the good ones will remain in media obscurity because they're just doing what they should be, while the news is happy to plaster the bad ones in your face for weeks on end. As a result, a lot of people only come to think of the bad ones. I reckon weed is like that, too. The reason you don't know many good pot-smokers is because it's a very passive hobby for them and they don't broadcast it, so you tend not to think of them when you think of the group as a whole.

Your story single-handedly expunged all the pot-related rage that California instilled in me. Best wishes, man.

I think you summed it up perfectly. If you line up 10 people in a room, and one of them is wear hemp clothes, dreadlocks, and a giant pot-leaf on their shirt, you will immediately point him out as the pot smoker in the room. However the other 9 could be as well, but to them its just a thing they like to do, and not a lifestyle.
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@om*d
Title: Dorakyura
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PostPosted: Feb 05 2015 12:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Saw this yesterday and it is semi-relevant to this thread and made me laugh.

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Preng
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PostPosted: Feb 05 2015 10:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My oh my is that Facebook group something just absurdly delightful!
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Blackout
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PostPosted: Feb 05 2015 11:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

@om*d wrote:
Saw this yesterday and it is semi-relevant to this thread and made me laugh.

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I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of liquid. Laughing



 
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Ash Burton
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2015 12:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

@om*d wrote:

Mexican drug cartels would not be crippled at all if Marijuana was legalized. Most of their money is made in human trafficking, sex trafficking and the smuggling of cocaine and heroin. Many of the cartels are also into real estate and construction. You would have to hunt down and kill most of them to change anything.



Not sure where you get your facts from but..."Mexican drug cartels make at least 60 percent of their revenue from selling marijuana in the United States, according to the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. "

https://news.vice.com/article/legal-pot-in-the-us-is-crippling-mexican-cartels

Gary Johnson: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-johnson/legalize-marijuana-to-sto_b_696430.html


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Ash is probably just home humping his SNES collection.

 
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2015 01:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ash Burton wrote:
@om*d wrote:

Mexican drug cartels would not be crippled at all if Marijuana was legalized. Most of their money is made in human trafficking, sex trafficking and the smuggling of cocaine and heroin. Many of the cartels are also into real estate and construction. You would have to hunt down and kill most of them to change anything.



Not sure where you get your facts from but..."Mexican drug cartels make at least 60 percent of their revenue from selling marijuana in the United States, according to the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. "

https://news.vice.com/article/legal-pot-in-the-us-is-crippling-mexican-cartels

Gary Johnson: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-johnson/legalize-marijuana-to-
sto_b_696430.html


Great articles and very true. It's just sad and frankly pathetic that people do not realize what this "drug war" has done to our country and to Mexico (Now listed by the CIA as being one of the most dangerous countries to visit as a U.S. citizen.).

I used to live in San Diego and remember the days when you could cross the border to Tijuana to procure everything from a ninja star to a sick ass chess set. Nowadays you are in danger of death crossing into Tijuana.

Long before shit got this bad in Mexico I had a friend who's sister ended up marrying a captain in a Mexican cartel. One day while visiting the bank her brother in law got blown up via a car bomb. Shit has gotten far worse since then.

If weed were to be legalized the Sinaloa cartel would be crippled.

However, too many people in high places would lose too much money if this happens (Citibank, HSBC, Wachovia ect). This is reality and is the reason it hasn't become legal IMO. This is not some conspiracy bullshit, it is fact.

I have personally worked on programs, in the interest of national security to "protect" our southern border. This shit gets complex going so far as doing the math capable of discerning the difference in the movement patterns of cattle ect crossing the border in comparison to drug traffickers (not including the physics involved with time dilation/Lorentz transformation in use in everything from satellites to U2's, planes still in use and as old as the Vietnam conflict). What a fucking waste of time and money IMO. There is a far simpler and better solution to this problem but ignorance and this modern day prohibition will continue to waste American tax dollars, cost lives and imprison people for years.

WTF...
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@om*d
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2015 01:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ash Burton wrote:
@om*d wrote:

Mexican drug cartels would not be crippled at all if Marijuana was legalized. Most of their money is made in human trafficking, sex trafficking and the smuggling of cocaine and heroin. Many of the cartels are also into real estate and construction. You would have to hunt down and kill most of them to change anything.



Not sure where you get your facts from but..."Mexican drug cartels make at least 60 percent of their revenue from selling marijuana in the United States, according to the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy. "

https://news.vice.com/article/legal-pot-in-the-us-is-crippling-mexican-cartels

Gary Johnson: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-johnson/legalize-marijuana-to-sto_b_696430.html

I should have stated that most of their business is elsewhere, and over the past few years they have diversified their interests. My main point is that legalizing marijuana will not cripple them or make them disappear. Criminals will just move on to other forms of illegal activity or become more violent as a result of lost business.


I also find it hilarious that anyone would trust the word of the White House, considering the executive branch actions in support of the DEA and the stupid drug war. The US government likes to play both sides in pretty much everything, and that is why the world is so fucked up with drug trafficking and terrorism these days.

Also, state and federal government estimates on the value of street drugs is fucking retarded.

As for my sources, they are family and friends in law enforcement in California, Texas and New York. Also, friends who work in government agencies, whose heads regularly implode at the level of absurd and contradictory stuff they see every day. Believe it or not, there is a lot of internal government support for keeping the cartels afloat and making sure that Mexico and other Latin American countries remain unstable as it benefits the US political machine. Some cartels might disappear but others will replace them.


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PostPosted: Feb 06 2015 02:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Mexico has always been unstable. That's not on us, and would be true regardless of our marijuana laws.

And wow, anything connected to Bachmann is so damn vitriolic. I remember her fundraising staff got my cell phone number from some republican list and started calling me several times a day asking for money when she was running for president. Had to yell at them to make them stop.
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2015 02:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
Mexico has always been unstable. That's not on us, and would be true regardless of our marijuana laws.

And wow, anything connected to Bachmann is so damn vitriolic. I remember her fundraising staff got my cell phone number from some republican list and started calling me several times a day asking for money when she was running for president. Had to yell at them to make them stop.


Yeah I lived in Minnesota when Bachmann was in office. This lady is crazy as hell and I'm glad that her political career is pretty much ruined.

Yes Mexico has always been unstable but I would disagree with it not having something to do with our marijuana laws. Living in California it is not hard to find illegal grow sites simply hiking through the woods patrolled by Mexicans armed with Kalashnikovs. Mexican cartels traffic many different drugs but their cash cow is marijuana. Legalizing marijuana would cripple these cartels.

And see how the US, in a very real way, fucked Mexicans over in what is refereed to as the "Corn War".

Also I would like to mention that despite my profile picture featuring the Gonzo fist as a tribute to one of my personal heroes, Hunter S Thompson, whom is in my opinion not only one of the most prolific writers of the last century but also a total badass; I am not some left wing nut job. Matter of fact fuck Obama as he has proven himself to be a hypocrite and fuck PETA and the hippies.

However I just can't stand Ayn Rand card carrying Libertarians that think roads grow like trees in the forest and prefer fascism to rationality and logic. I am happy to say Hunter would agree.

I do not choose to identify as a democrat, but would consider myself progressive on some issues. Such as legalization of weed, gay marriage and women's rights. It is not the governments business to fuck with these individual's personal rights.

In the case of marijuana legalization they continue to do so for profit. In the case of gay marriage and women's rights they do it out of ignorance, arrogance and archaic beliefs.

Also fuck iPad for autocorrects...

As for Blackout's (err cam's) Jugallo picture, there are a surprising amount of these stupid fucks in my neighborhood. Walking down the street one day recently I was approached by some girl that was clowned up, makeup and all, asking me if I was "down with the clowns". Never been so close to hitting a bitch just in hoping that it might have whipped the clown off her face...

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"[a]cross the board. It might be a little rough on some people for a while, but I think it's the only way to deal with drugs. Look at Prohibition: all it did was make a lot of criminals rich."

"I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."

Hunter S Thompson.
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PostPosted: Jan 17 2016 01:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

I will be in Denver next weekend to enjoy the legal weed. I want to finally get to taste some of the properly grown stuff.

Roundtrip plan tickets there are like 100 bucks roundtrip on Frontier if you book earlier.


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PostPosted: Jan 19 2016 06:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

GeorgeTaylor wrote:
I will be in Denver next weekend to enjoy the legal weed. I want to finally get to taste some of the properly grown stuff.

Roundtrip plan tickets there are like 100 bucks roundtrip on Frontier if you book earlier.

Check out Native Roots recreational dispensaries. The quality and consistency is top notc and they have a wide variety of products. Have a blast, man, if I wasn't so busy with work I'd drive up there and smoke you up good.
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PostPosted: Jan 26 2016 05:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

Crazy_Bastard wrote:
GeorgeTaylor wrote:
I will be in Denver next weekend to enjoy the legal weed. I want to finally get to taste some of the properly grown stuff.

Roundtrip plan tickets there are like 100 bucks roundtrip on Frontier if you book earlier.

Check out Native Roots recreational dispensaries. The quality and consistency is top notc and they have a wide variety of products. Have a blast, man, if I wasn't so busy with work I'd drive up there and smoke you up good.


Thanks for the recommendation. I went there as well as many other places. I was amazed at the quality and how many shops there actually are.

With the Broncos winning the AFC Championship I picked the right weekend to be in Denver lol


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