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Posted: Dec 21 2011 02:23 am

I have an all Hitler deck. Do I need more Hitlers?

Title: Electric Sex Pants Joined: Dec 30 2009 Posts: 199

That... That is just brilliant. Joesph Stalin could beat him though.

20,000,000/1

Posted: Jan 08 2012 03:12 pm

I hope no one plays a deck full of communists, jews and gypsies against you.

Posted: Jan 08 2012 04:49 pm

@om*d wrote:

I hope no one plays a deck full of communists, jews and gypsies against you.

1/3rd there.

Joined: Jan 23 2012 Posts: 11

I HATED 3 mana costing 1/1's... I can't think of many cards (back in the day, haven't played in forever) that really warranted the extra 2 mana just for 1/1. I understood making them weak attackers, but but with only 1 health, ANYTHING, even a strong breeze, could kill them, and so many other cards were so powerful with a 3 mana cost...

Posted: Jan 29 2012 11:30 am

This is the sort of creature that should cost 3 mana:

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 29 2012 04:43 pm

DatsRight wrote:

I HATED 3 mana costing 1/1's... I can't think of many cards (back in the day, haven't played in forever) that really warranted the extra 2 mana just for 1/1. I understood making them weak attackers, but but with only 1 health, ANYTHING, even a strong breeze, could kill them, and so many other cards were so powerful with a 3 mana cost...

Timmah!

Joined: Jan 23 2012 Posts: 11

That WAS a good card, I only ever had 2 of them, but leading up to the 4th edition there were many underpriced overpowered cards

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 31 2012 12:18 pm

You know, I just realized...Hitler wouldn't be black, he would be white.

Posted: Jan 31 2012 12:53 pm

Except he doesn't fit WOTC's color identity for white.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 31 2012 04:08 pm

Yes he does. Fascism has even been explicitly listed as one of the negative traits of white by MaRo. If you look beyond "White is good and Black is evil", you can absolutely see the Nazis as white-aligned villains.

Posted: Jan 31 2012 04:14 pm

I was gonna say white doesn't get non-conditional creature removal as an activated ability, but I guess this is conditional.

Also, the way that card is worded, Hitler doesn't actually have a tap ability, he has a triggered ability that activates if he becomes tapped.

Posted: Jan 31 2012 04:29 pm

I think Hitler should be a red, white and black card to match the Nazi colors. I can also justify my opinion by saying that red = burning of people in concentration camps and the blitzkrieg, white = purity of the Aryan race and black for the use of gas(chambers), medical experiments and inherent evil.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 31 2012 06:33 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

I was gonna say white doesn't get non-conditional creature removal as an activated ability, but I guess this is conditional.

I would think a Hitler card would be mass removal. White does get that.

Posted: Jan 31 2012 08:08 pm

I could see Hitler being black/white/red. White and black for already discussed and obviously reasons respectively and red for the occasion bout of uncontrolled fury movies and TV lead me to believe Hitler had.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 31 2012 09:41 pm

@om*d wrote:

I think Hitler should be a red, white and black card to match the Nazi colors. I can also justify my opinion by saying that red = burning of people in concentration camps and the blitzkrieg, white = purity of the Aryan race and black for the use of gas(chambers), medical experiments and inherent evil.

Black is not inherently evil, it's just the color most likely to do things that are considered evil "being the color of amorality and selfishness). Medical experiments and poison gas could actually be a Blue trait.

Posted: Jan 31 2012 09:47 pm

Experiments could be blue.

Poison gas (Marsh Gas, Death Cloud) seems to be exclusively associated with black.

Posted: Jan 31 2012 09:49 pm

UsaSatsui wrote:

@om*d wrote:

I think Hitler should be a red, white and black card to match the Nazi colors. I can also justify my opinion by saying that red = burning of people in concentration camps and the blitzkrieg, white = purity of the Aryan race and black for the use of gas(chambers), medical experiments and inherent evil.

Black is not inherently evil, it's just the color most likely to do things that are considered evil "being the color of amorality and selfishness). Medical experiments and poison gas could actually be a Blue trait.

What about this as the basis for black then:

mtgsalvation wiki wrote:

Black is the color of self-indulgence, parasitism, amorality and unfettered desire for power. It believes that the world is made for its taking and that the weak exist to be exploited by the strong. The essence of Black is to see one's own ego[1] as so supremely invaluable, that the prospect of enslavement, of subordinating that ego to another, is utterly inadmissible. So, to be in accord with its perceptions and beliefs, Black simply must discard all obligations but to acquire power for itself. It can be no less than the one supreme being who is subordinate to no other, the possessor of all power in the universe - it must become omnipotent.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 31 2012 10:28 pm

@om*d wrote:

UsaSatsui wrote:

@om*d wrote:

I think Hitler should be a red, white and black card to match the Nazi colors. I can also justify my opinion by saying that red = burning of people in concentration camps and the blitzkrieg, white = purity of the Aryan race and black for the use of gas(chambers), medical experiments and inherent evil.

Black is not inherently evil, it's just the color most likely to do things that are considered evil "being the color of amorality and selfishness). Medical experiments and poison gas could actually be a Blue trait.

What about this as the basis for black then:

mtgsalvation wiki wrote:

Black is the color of self-indulgence, parasitism, amorality and unfettered desire for power. It believes that the world is made for its taking and that the weak exist to be exploited by the strong. The essence of Black is to see one's own ego[1] as so supremely invaluable, that the prospect of enslavement, of subordinating that ego to another, is utterly inadmissible. So, to be in accord with its perceptions and beliefs, Black simply must discard all obligations but to acquire power for itself. It can be no less than the one supreme being who is subordinate to no other, the possessor of all power in the universe - it must become omnipotent.

I don't see "evil" in there. Just a lot of "being a dick". Capitalism is often listed as the most prevalent "positive" black philosophy. Self-improvement is another.

Kamigawa block had a white villain and a black hero. Of course, we don't like to talk about it.

Posted: Jan 31 2012 11:06 pm

Forget about the evil thing and read the quote, particularly the bold text. I think Hitler would fit those descriptions.

mtgsalvation wiki wrote:

Black is the color of self-indulgence, parasitism, amorality and unfettered desire for power. It believes that the world is made for its taking and that the weak exist to be exploited by the strong. The essence of Black is to see one's own ego[1] as so supremely invaluable, that the prospect of enslavement, of subordinating that ego to another, is utterly inadmissible. So, to be in accord with its perceptions and beliefs, Black simply must discard all obligations but to acquire power for itself. It can be no less than the one supreme being who is subordinate to no other, the possessor of all power in the universe - it must become omnipotent.

Posted: Feb 01 2012 10:28 am

See, I don't see Hitler being blue because it wasn't him personally who did the medical experiments or threw the switch for the gas chambers, even if he DID approve their usage and whatnot. Mengele, sure, he'd probably be B/U.