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Joined: Feb 16 2008 Posts: 832

So this september DC is relaunching 52 of it's biggest titles and rolling back the numbering on everything to #1. They're undoing the currently established status quo and setting things back a couple years in universe (this means no more Stephanie Brown Batgirl, No more Tim Drake as Red Robin. No more Renee Montoya The Question? hopefully) Women will wear pants, Longtime DC fans will groan in disgust.
a couple of things that have been confirmed are massive shake ups on tried-and-true creative teams, with geoff johns being the only writer staying on his best book it looks like

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32563

Posted: Jun 02 2011 05:00 pm

...why? I thought DC was doing pretty good sales wise, Blackest Night was a huge thing and they've got that whole Batman Inc. thing going. Whatever, it's not like I regularly read DC anyways.

Posted: Jun 02 2011 05:13 pm

I actually don't hate this, mostly because I'm a new enough reader that I'm not terribly invested in current continuity yet. I DO hope they keep titles like Batman, Inc though....if they get rid of that one, I'll be very sad.

Also, Batwoman #1 had just damn well BETTER be one of those 52 titles. It had better be. For serious, you guys, or I'm gonna be PISSED.

I do really applaud their day-of digital comics release. Ballsy move. I'll still be buying my paper, but I'm glad one of the big two finally made the first big move into digital comics.

Joined: Feb 16 2008 Posts: 832

huh, marvels been into digital comics for atleast a year now, they released almost their entire catalog of comics digitally, and the new stuff usually releases within a couple of days of it hitting prints

Posted: Jun 02 2011 05:34 pm

Kojjiro! wrote:

huh, marvels been into digital comics for atleast a year now, they released almost their entire catalog of comics digitally, and the new stuff usually releases within a couple of days of it hitting prints

While this is true, the big deal here is that DC is releasing their whole catalog *day-of.* That's a small, but very significant, difference. I hope it pays off that DC is finally taking the plunge. I expect Marvel will be following suit shortly, since as you noted, they have a bigger overall digital comics presence for the time being.

Posted: Jun 03 2011 05:21 am

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

This is the stupidest thing I've heard about in a while. Way to completely shit all over years of fans you've had. Is DC really that desperate to relaunch Detective Comics, a comic series that has had consistent issues for about 80 years, which is the longest running comic series. You just want to revamp that? Why? Did the Crisis on Infinite Earths not completely correct everything you set out to correct?

Here's the truth DC, and Marvel, and everyone else out there. The reason not many people read comic books anymore is because you're overindulgent in how much shit you put out there, and then you turn around and pull something like this, which basically tells your fans that what they've been spending their time and money on is stupid and/or not important enough to keep going. Also, the art style has sucked since the late 90's...I want a comic book, not a graphic novel that doesn't contain any artistic detail.

Posted: Jun 10 2011 06:14 am

SoldierHawk wrote:

Also, Batwoman #1 had just damn well BETTER be one of those 52 titles. It had better be. For serious, you guys, or I'm gonna be PISSED

Ask and ye shall receive. Here's most of the list:

Aquaman
The Savage Hawkman
Justice League
Batman
Batman and Robin (Damian)
Wonder Woman
The Flash
The Fury of Firestorm
Green Arrow
JLU
Mr. Terrific
DCU Presents
Green Lantern (Hal)
Green Lantern Corps (Jon and Guy in the main)
Green Lantern: The New Guardians (Kyle)
Captain Atom
Red Lanterns
Detective Comics
Batman: The Dark Knight
Batwoman
Batgirl (Barbara)
Red Hood
Catwoman
Nightwing (Dick Grayson)
The Outlaws (Red Arrow/Speedy and Starfire)
Batwing
Animal Man
Justice League Dark (Deadman, Constantine, Madame Xanadu, Shade the Changing Man)
Swamp Thing
Demon Nights
Frankenstein: Agent of Shade
Resurrection Man
I, Vampire
and Voodoo (the Wildstorm character)

Posted: Jun 10 2011 09:34 am

i thought DC was famous for doing this every several years or so?

i mean, DC restarts, & Marvel just retcons a bunch of shit. isnt that how it normally goes?

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

It's relaunching the entire series, from the beginning, which they've never done.

Posted: Jun 10 2011 09:37 pm

so, everything that happened is gone? have all current storylines been resolved?

Posted: Jun 11 2011 01:31 am

Does this mean they nuked the Batman Beyond book? FUCK YOU DC I WAS READING THAT!

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

username wrote:

so, everything that happened is gone? have all current storylines been resolved?

Yes, everything is completely revamped from the very beginning, hence why they're renumbering Detective Comics.

Posted: Jun 16 2011 02:41 pm

Doddsino wrote:

username wrote:

so, everything that happened is gone? have all current storylines been resolved?

Yes, everything is completely revamped from the very beginning, hence why they're renumbering Detective Comics.

Well...this isn't *entirely* accurate. It's really a 'relaunch' not a 'reboot' according to DC, which may seem like semantics, but it does make a difference. ALthough the heroes will be younger, their essential origins and powers will stand. Also, some of the history of the old DCU will stand as well--the emotional spectrum and rainbow lantern corps, for example.

Joined: Oct 01 2009 Posts: 5316

Relaunch, revamp...same thing in my eyes to an extent. Yeah, the origins will be the same, but it's the intent on their end to say that 80 years worth of story doesn't mean a damn.

Posted: Jun 17 2011 07:17 am

The remaining titles to be re[verb]ed are:

* Legion of SuperHeroes
* Legion of Lost
* Teen Titans (Tim as Red Robin, Superboy, Kid Flash, Bart Allen, and Wondergirl)
* Static Shock!!!
* Hawk and Dove
* Stormwatch (Apollo and Midnighter from Wildstorm teaming up with the Martian Manhunter)
* Black hawks
Sgt. Hawk and the Man of War
All-Star Westerns (Jona Hex is still around)
Deathstroke
Grifter (another Wildstorm character)
O.M,A,C.
Suicide Squad (featuring Deadshot, King Shark, and Harley Quinn)
Blue Beetle
Superman (Perez for writing/art)
Superboy
Supergirl
Action Comics (Grant Morrison writing)

No mention of Secret Six, Batman Beyond (Beechum says its continuing), or JSA.

Joined: Feb 16 2008 Posts: 832

Also stephanie brown, literally my favorite character is suspiciously MIA

Joined: Apr 09 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3112

If this is DC just trying to start fresh, kill off weird canon and lame retconning, more power to 'em. If it's just going to be another lame, "with the times" reboot, I'm out.

Posted: Jun 23 2011 01:53 pm

Mainly posting this for Hawk's sake

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

... Hm. Maybe I can finally get into this stuff.

Posted: Jun 27 2011 11:40 pm

Bwahahaha, nice find Sathien. So true. (Although I don't mind the delay as much now, knowing why it happened.)

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

You skipped over the spam to post in this thread! Kill it!

Posted: Aug 10 2011 09:33 pm

This is what DC needs again, to quell hordes of squalling fanboys, the full "Big 7" Justice League again.

Groan.

I'm done with their standard titles, then. I might check out Justice League Dark (horrible name) but otherwise, I'm totally done with their comics. I'll probably just stick to IDW stuff, I guess. How plebian and predictable. Things were getting great with the Batman Inc stuff and everything.

Joined: Apr 09 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3112

aeonic wrote:

This is what DC needs again, to quell hordes of squalling fanboys, the full "Big 7" Justice League again.

Groan.

I'm done with their standard titles, then. I might check out Justice League Dark (horrible name) but otherwise, I'm totally done with their comics. I'll probably just stick to IDW stuff, I guess. How plebian and predictable. Things were getting great with the Batman Inc stuff and everything.

I've completely sworn off the big two altogether. The Runaways got me back into comics a year ago, but even that just got swallowed up in the mainstream comic shit-storm of awful writing, and nonsensical crossovers, to say nothing of sexualizing an underage girl for the sake of fan-service. I think a massive reboot of DC would be interesting. Get crap out of the way, stop worrying about timelines and alternate universes, and re-build franchises from the ground up with what we've learned about writing in comics over the past century or so.

Posted: Aug 15 2011 10:39 pm

I'd love to see a company NOT do a reboot, honestly, or do something gutsy like permanently kill off a popular character, never to be ressurrected or brought back because someone punched the fabric of reality or whatever. I'm so sick of them rehashing things for the meathead traditionalists when they could be forging new mythologies instead.