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Posted: Mar 15 2006 09:49 am

So I'm starting to think that scientology is nothing but a religion based on blackmail. It just seems like people are saying and doing things that are way out of character in order to defend this pseudo-religion. I mean, first it was Tom Cruise going off the deep end once the rumors that he's gay started to get out of control, then Isaac Hayes pulls this bullshit by quitting South Park. I'm thinking that somewhere in a manila folder there are pictures of Tom Cruise sucking off some guy at a truck stop.

Then again, I'm pretty sure most religions are seeped in a tradition of keeping the faithful close through guilt and the threat of persecution.

Posted: Mar 15 2006 01:17 pm

Hey, what Tom Cruise gives me $5 for at a truck stop is none of your buisness.

But yeah, Scientology is some whacky shit, not a respectable religion in my opinion.

Posted: Mar 15 2006 01:42 pm

Scientology is nothing but bat-shit insanity and anyone who actually believes that exiled alien ghosts flew here on interstellar 747s millions of years ago deserves to be shot for their gullibility. Not that I don't think all religions are bat-shit insanity, but at least most of them don't have alien ghosts as part of their main theology.

Isaac Hayes quit South Park? That really sucks. If Isaac Hayes is a scientologist and quit because of their scientology episode, that sucks twice as bad. C'mon Isaac, you know better!

Posted: Mar 15 2006 02:27 pm

Think of scientology and how accepted it is among so many people. Then think of other religions that could be but aren't so popular. Think of what bullshit story they might have for creation, the meaning of life, and whatnot. This is even scarier to me. Small towns that still have human sacrifices, incestuous propogation, and illogically justified punishments/tortures. It's a McWorld, so it can happen.

Posted: Mar 15 2006 02:28 pm

You all do realize that Scientology has their own department that does nothing but find people bashing Scientology and then bash them in return. I'd rather not have Scientology freaks flamming the boards.

Posted: Mar 15 2006 03:20 pm

Apparently Mr. Cruise is making his lovely wife have an entirely natural child-birth. All I can say is I hope she returns the favor some day by crushing his testicles in a bench-vice, then breaking the handle of the vice, giving him a saw and lighting the garage on fire.

Posted: Mar 15 2006 06:32 pm

Tebor wrote:

You all do realize that Scientology has their own department that does nothing but find people bashing Scientology and then bash them in return. I'd rather not have Scientology freaks flamming the boards.

So, let em' come! I'm not afraid of them or their money-absorbing machines, I mean, audit machines.

Posted: Mar 15 2006 07:18 pm

They have lawyers... so very many lawyers.

Posted: Mar 15 2006 09:41 pm

I am a farily religous person,and i tilt to the right a bit.

That being said, i have an open mind, and it pisses me off when a fucktard like tom cruise or some bitch with a fake brittish accent repersents god for me, via the television.

I guess it goes to show how much i hate celebs

Posted: Mar 15 2006 09:50 pm

Gushoshin wrote:

I am a farily religous person,and i tilt to the right a bit.

That being said, i have an open mind, and it pisses me off when a fucktard like tom cruise or some bitch with a fake brittish accent repersents god for me, via the television.

I guess it goes to show how much i hate celebs

I'm cool with Cruise. The media wants me to hate him, so I just love him more. FUCK YOU, MEDIA!

Posted: Mar 16 2006 12:55 am

I don't really hate Cruise, but I don't like him either. I'll like Tom Cruise when he starts making good movies on a regular basis again.

MI:3? No thanks.
War of the Worlds? Pass.
Collateral? Yawn.

Last Samurai, Vanilla Sky, and Minority Report were all decent films, but what was the last truly great film that Cruise was in? Probably Magnolia, and that was SEVEN YEARS AGO. Here's a guy who virtually every movie he made between 1983 and 1994 kicked ass (except maybe Far And Away) and now he's just an overpaid actor with ignorant opinions on medicine. It's sad.

Posted: Mar 16 2006 09:30 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

I don't really hate Cruise, but I don't like him either. I'll like Tom Cruise when he starts making good movies on a regular basis again.

MI:3? No thanks.
War of the Worlds? Pass.
Collateral? Yawn.

Last Samurai, Vanilla Sky, and Minority Report were all decent films, but what was the last truly great film that Cruise was in? Probably Magnolia, and that was SEVEN YEARS AGO. Here's a guy who virtually every movie he made between 1983 and 1994 kicked ass (except maybe Far And Away) and now he's just an overpaid actor with ignorant opinions on medecine. It's sad.

Dude, Collateral was the shit! Michael Mann is as God-like as people can get. Wait till "Miami Vice". That movie is going to make "Heat" look like "Manhunter"! Of course, Cruise won't be in it, but whatever.

M:I 3 Is also going to be excellent because of one person: J.J. Abrams. I don't think anyone else in the industry is as much of a genius as that guy.

I know, I know, we're talking about Cruise, but Cruise has worked with some of the best filmmakers of all time and he's usually at his best when he works with them... except for that fat, hairy blob known as Kubrick...

Posted: Mar 16 2006 10:22 pm

Maybe Mission: Impossible 3 will be good, I don't know. But I was so disengaged by the first two, it's hard for me to get psyched for this one. Although I did like the second one slightly more than the first, so I guess it follows that the third one could be slightly better too.

Posted: Mar 17 2006 12:10 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

Maybe Mission: Impossible 3 will be good, I don't know. But I was so disengaged by the first two, it's hard for me to get psyched for this one. Although I did like the second one slightly more than the first, so I guess it follows that the third one could be slightly better too.

I'm a waaaaaaaaaaay bigger fan of De Palma's opus. It felt like an homage to some genre and time period of film... plus:

*spoilers*
THE GIRL DIES AT THE END!!! YES!!! EAT THAT HAPPY HOLLYWOOD ENDINGS! Not since "Lethal Weapon 2" had that device worked so well, cause Se7en was just funny.

Of course, this is not mentioning John Woo really hasn't made a great film since his HK days. "Face/Off" is as good as it gets.

This topic is getting way too "Movie" category...

Posted: Mar 17 2006 12:55 am

I would argue that Mission: Impossible was the beginning of the end for De Palma. After that, we got Snake Eyes and then Mission To Mars and Femme Fatale. Snake Eyes almost succeeded in its film noir aspirations, but revealing the bad guy to the audience way before Nicholas Cage figured out was just plain bizarre. It was the type of the thing that's only supposed to happen in murder mystery shows where aging TV stars solves crimes, not $73 million Hollywood films. To its credit, Snake Eyes is beautifully shot. Mission To Mars was terrible and I didn't even bother to see Femme Fatale. Judging by the box office figures, no one else did either.

Posted: Mar 17 2006 01:26 am

Right on Femme, I didn't see it. "Mission to Mars" I'll defend. I think it's the better movie over "Red Planet". Albeit, "Red Planet" had more laughs and booyas, but it really was a stupid, stupid movie. Of course, I love all films, so "Red Planet" is still well liked for ZOD!!!!!

Posted: Mar 17 2006 01:44 am

My favorite Mars movie from that era was Ghosts of Mars. Sure, it was pretty much just a remake of Assault on Precinct 13, but it was a much better movie than the ACTUAL remake of Assault on Precinct 13.

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Mission to Mars was particularly terrible in it's blatant thievery from other, better movies, like 2001: A Space Odyssey. It's like De Palma was hoping no one would notice.

Actually, it was probably meant to be "homage." But instead he just crossed the line into crappy rip-off. Over and over again.

Posted: Mar 17 2006 04:16 pm

I can't believe I have to be the one to talk about being off-topic. For shame!!!

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S. McCracken wrote:

I can't believe I have to be the one to talk about being off-topic. For shame!!!

Oh, did I say "Mission to Mars"? I meant "Scientology". Don't you just hate how the Church of Scientology totally ripped off 2001? Bastards.

Posted: Mar 18 2006 04:37 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

My favorite Mars movie from that era was Ghosts of Mars. Sure, it was pretty much just a remake of Assault on Precinct 13, but it was a much better movie than the ACTUAL remake of Assault on Precinct 13.

I always thought "Ghosts of Mars" was a rip off of "Pitch Black" despite they were two incredibly different movies, developed at different times, and somehow got released at a similar time... But now that you mention it, "Ghosts of Mars" is kind of a remake... kinda like how "Escape From LA" is both a sequel and a remake... And Snake Plissken is still a fucking badass in both!

But, back to the topic, Snake Plissken does NOT subscribe to Scientology.