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S. McCracken
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Title: Enforcer
Joined: Aug 22 2005
Location: Massachusetts
PostPosted: Mar 19 2007 03:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm starting this topic for two reasons:

1) Opinions about the mod process are spilling onto other threads, and

2) I'm curious as to your thoughts about the mod process in general. What do you like, if anything? What DON'T you like, if anything? What are your thoughts on what a mod should be doing on the forum?

I'm interested in what you guys have to say on this. I will, however, ask you to NOT make this a topic with which to bash individual mods. We all have different styles. If you don't like a particular method, tell us why you don't like the method; DON'T tell us why you don't like the person or persons. There's no need to mention names. If this turns into a mod-bashing topic, I will delete it since I've been pretty clear about the rules.

I'm also going to be moving posts that have to do with this topic but are found in other topics where they don't belong from now on. Vent in here, not all over the forums.


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FNJ
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Joined: Jun 07 2006
PostPosted: Mar 19 2007 11:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

for starters, I don't think a forum with liek eight regular posters really requires four mods. if anyhting, it only requires one to fight the spambots, and even then, fighitng spambots has nothign to do with editing and deleting stuff from posters.

I mostly get mad when things magically vanish or get edited. at least put something like "JEBUS' EDIT: I removed all of the gay porn pictures that you posted because they were NSFW" at the bottom of an edited post, or a post by the moderator explaining where hte missing shit went.

I also got pissed when I was asking legit questions, and things were being swept under the rug with no resoloution. I STILL have no idea where syd stands on any of the shit that goes on wit hhis forum, and have pretty much just assumed that he doesn't give a shit about any of this at all. having mod powers doesn't give anyone the right to lock topics to end arguments just because they are losing. it also doesn't give you the right to delete and edit post just because someone made fun of your girlfriend, no matter how vulgar that someone may be. If my girlfreind started posting here and someone started fuckging with her, I wouldn't be able to abuse powers to help her out, so why should a mod?

you wanna get this forum working proper? use your voice. I would liek to hear syd, jsut once, say where he stands on subjects taht we argue over. if syd wants someone banned or something , he shoudl just gome on, use his admin powers, and get it done. if he doesnt lie kthe way something's going, he shoudl fix it. if he has no problem or could care less, he should say so. secret PM surveys and comments about playing the lotto don't resolve issues. they just make things happen without getting your hands dirty.

you could also make a sub forum for deleted posts and topics, jsut move them there and leave a link where they used to be and an explanation. this way all the "tis his fat, jew is the lowest common denomenator, random I hate pugs gifs" shit might be contained, and when we all feel the need to snipe comments at each other and argue over stupid irrelevant shit, we would end up doing ti there, where the posts in question are. this also insures that if a post that got moved is questioned, it coudl be moved back (an example would be when I psoted the anime porn and it all got deleted, when I thought I followed the rules about how to handel NSFW shit. after it was moved and I said sometihng, it could have been moved back and edited to have links instead of embedded pictures). you can find a great example of this at the mugen infantry:

http://www.mugen-infantry.net/forum/index.php?topic=64461.0
http://www.mugen-infantry.net/forum/index.php?topic=64471.0

see what I mean?

fuck, why not jsut upgrade to invisionboard? you can get a pirated one set up for free if you look around. I might even be able to help with that. besides being better in every concieveable way, it also has things that automatically stop spambots if set up proper, elimenating any need for this many mods in the first place, and it also has an ingore button, so people who don't like me or tish or murdar or whoever can jsut cease to notice their posts.

I'll post more as it coems to mind


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Cattivo
Joined: Apr 14 2006
Location: Lake Michigan
PostPosted: Mar 19 2007 11:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The ignore option is something I like and have mentioned before. It does have a drawback though, if someone you don't have on ignore responds to something said by someone you have on ignore, it can get confusing.
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S. McCracken
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Title: Enforcer
Joined: Aug 22 2005
Location: Massachusetts
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 12:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
The ignore option is something I like and have mentioned before. It does have a drawback though, if someone you don't have on ignore responds to something said by someone you have on ignore, it can get confusing.


Emphasizing the use of the quote function could take care of that.


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Valdronius
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Title: SydLexia COO
Joined: Aug 22 2005
Location: The Great White North
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 12:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

Seeing as it keeps coming up, I'd like to apologize to JEW. I wasn't calling you the lowest common denominator, I was calling fat jokes the LCD.


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Tishwitch
Title: PornStarExtraordinaire
Joined: Jul 01 2006
Location: Winter Wonderland
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 12:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

I agree with about 99% of what JEW said... the only exception is the "it also doesn't give you the right to delete and edit post just because someone made fun of your girlfriend"... honestly that has never happened. You may not know Valdronius outside this forum, but I do. Preferential treatment is not his style. You don't need to believe me, but the almost 6 years we've been together awards me the right to know EVERYTHING about him... Furthermore, no other mod awards me special treatment either.

As for the quite apparent "tooting one's own horn" that's been going on lately, I figure that individual will self-destruct soon enough. (unfortunately not nearly as fast as Inspector Gadget's letters) Cool

Last point: most of the posts that get "removed" are not outright deleted...


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Dr. Jeebus
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Title: SLF Harbinger of Death
Joined: Sep 03 2005
Location: Wakefield, MA
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 02:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:

I mostly get mad when things magically vanish or get edited. at least put something like "JEBUS' EDIT: I removed all of the gay porn pictures that you posted because they were NSFW" at the bottom of an edited post, or a post by the moderator explaining where hte missing shit went.

I don't think the method of removing posts being used allows for this. I believe the way things are set up now, the original post would be gone, and while a mod could add a new post saying they removed something, if anyone posted between the inappropriate material and the modding then people could probably get easily confused. Not saying it couldn't be done differently, just saying.


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B.B.King
Title: Total Fucking Loser
Joined: Aug 25 2005
Location: Truck stops and gay bars
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 07:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

This forum cannot be properly modded without growing some balls and reserving your right to restrict some of the free speech on the site. I would say that the problem doesn't have anything to do with mods deleting random posts or making unannounced edits to them, but rather with the majority of the users on the sydlexia forums, and their horrible conversational skills that always lead to mangled topics with no defined topic and with enough flaming to flamebroil all the fucking whoppers consumed in the U.S in a year. I think syd especially is too afraid of alienating his own forum users to put a stop to all the bullshit. When topics turn into back and forths between Murder and Tish for 3 fucking pages, instead of just locking the topic, say "hey,can you guys shut the fuck up and start talking about the topic at hand instead of just babbling random shit at each other full of lame sexual innuendo".

This is NOT msn.
This is NOT yahoo chat.
this is a fucking pop culture discussion board. Syd,you and the mods reserve the right to silence fucking idiots when they fly off topic without having to worry about any sort of "free speech" violation. for fucks sakes man, fix your forum before NOBODY posts here.


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Char Aznable
Title: Char Classic™
Joined: Jul 24 2006
Location: Robot Boombox HQ
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 08:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

Seig B.B. King!

And you mean JEW and Tish, man.


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S. McCracken
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Title: Enforcer
Joined: Aug 22 2005
Location: Massachusetts
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
JEW wrote:

I mostly get mad when things magically vanish or get edited. at least put something like "JEBUS' EDIT: I removed all of the gay porn pictures that you posted because they were NSFW" at the bottom of an edited post, or a post by the moderator explaining where hte missing shit went.

I don't think the method of removing posts being used allows for this. I believe the way things are set up now, the original post would be gone, and while a mod could add a new post saying they removed something, if anyone posted between the inappropriate material and the modding then people could probably get easily confused. Not saying it couldn't be done differently, just saying.


That's pretty much the way I've been doing it. If it's one post that has nothing to do with the topic, I'll delete it and post something asking people to stay on point.

If there are several posts that split off into another subject (like the talk about the gym in the driving thread) then just split it off into its own topic. Unless the subject isn't appropriate for its own thread, like the "gf with HIV" back-and-forth joke in one of the other threads. Just delete them and tell the participants why they were deleted.

I think the biggest thing that people seem to have a problem with is transparency, and not in a Sue Richards type of way. They want accountability and they want to know the reasons behind the actions. I'm ok with that.

EDIT: Also, re: JEW, there definitely need to be multiple mods. People get sick, go on vacation, lose their internet connections, etc. If something happens to one mod then there has to be someone else to take up the slack. It's not practical to have "standby" mods who get temporary powers and then have them taken away simply because it's not like we have real "shifts" or anything.

Look at what's been going on recently. Not that I'm knocking them, because I know that people are busy and have things in the real world that need to get done, but Jeebus and Tebor had been MIA for a while. Tebor is still MIA and Jeebus has admitted he won't be around much except to lurk. If we had one or two mods and they both did that, we'd have to get a third mod anyway.


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Tebor
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Title: Master of the Universe
Joined: Aug 22 2005
Location: Gotham City
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 03:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, I see the problems from two weeks ago have only escalated. Sad

I'd also like to file a complaint against myself.


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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 06:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Tebor wrote:
Well, I see the problems from two weeks ago have only escalated. Sad

I'd also like to file a complaint against myself.


Don't worry, the problems have been going on MUCH more than 2 weeks.


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Chrisby
Joined: Mar 31 2006
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 07:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I agree with pretty much everything Jew and others said regarding this.

If we're being particularly stupid in a topic, come in and tell us to knock it off. At least that way it gives the thread a chance to turn around instead of escalating into a flaming pile of retardedness and lockage.
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Char Aznable
Title: Char Classic™
Joined: Jul 24 2006
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's actually been getting better since Spanky became a mod. Spanky, I salute you!


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FNJ
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Joined: Jun 07 2006
PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
JEW wrote:

I mostly get mad when things magically vanish or get edited. at least put something like "JEBUS' EDIT: I removed all of the gay porn pictures that you posted because they were NSFW" at the bottom of an edited post, or a post by the moderator explaining where hte missing shit went.

I don't think the method of removing posts being used allows for this. I believe the way things are set up now, the original post would be gone, and while a mod could add a new post saying they removed something, if anyone posted between the inappropriate material and the modding then people could probably get easily confused. Not saying it couldn't be done differently, just saying.


what I mean is, lets use the anime porn thing as an example.

instead of deleting the entire post, hit hte edt button, backsapc over all of hte pictures, then put something like the following right in the post.

"I removed all of the anime porn because it was NSFW, next time post links and a warning instead of embedding the pictures - Jeebus"

or just edit the post to be links instead of embeds, and leave a simila message.


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FNJ
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Valdronius wrote:
Seeing as it keeps coming up, I'd like to apologize to JEW. I wasn't calling you the lowest common denominator, I was calling fat jokes the LCD.


well I wouldn't know that, considering it was swept under the rug.


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FNJ
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

B.B.King wrote:
This forum cannot be properly modded without growing some balls and reserving your right to restrict some of the free speech on the site. I would say that the problem doesn't have anything to do with mods deleting random posts or making unannounced edits to them, but rather with the majority of the users on the sydlexia forums, and their horrible conversational skills that always lead to mangled topics with no defined topic and with enough flaming to flamebroil all the fucking whoppers consumed in the U.S in a year. I think syd especially is too afraid of alienating his own forum users to put a stop to all the bullshit. When topics turn into back and forths between Murder and Tish for 3 fucking pages, instead of just locking the topic, say "hey,can you guys shut the fuck up and start talking about the topic at hand instead of just babbling random shit at each other full of lame sexual innuendo".

This is NOT msn.
This is NOT yahoo chat.
this is a fucking pop culture discussion board. Syd,you and the mods reserve the right to silence fucking idiots when they fly off topic without having to worry about any sort of "free speech" violation. for fucks sakes man, fix your forum before NOBODY posts here.


quite the opposite. a site such as this needs a bit of randomness on it's boards. being "stay on topic" nazis is a great way to annoy people into not wanting to post. the three pages of tish and *instert name of other forumer here* makes sense though, but that stuff could jsut be moved, or REmoved, and left with a warning, as opposed to jsut leaving it be till it gets locked.


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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah. Resident Evil-move it!


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FNJ
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I would also like to take this opportunity to point out that upgrading to an invisionboard would give users a multiquote button, to avoid things like I just did.


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Char Aznable
Title: Char Classic™
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Is that what you've got on the THI forums? Yeah, the accounts are waaaay more customizable, and that's pretty cool.


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FNJ
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I ca't call it "the THI forums" because it's hosted on maroonx.com, and it's a forum taht we share with that site. that's why there's a MX skin as well as a THI one.

and shame on you for never posting there. that board is a ghost town.


in fact, I would recommend everyone to register over there and fuck around, post a bit and whatnot, and try out invisionboard. mods and shit too. maybe we can convince syd to upgrade. I'm not trying to steal forumers from here, I'm just saying.


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's fairly easy to quote multiple people in this format, as long as you know the tags to use, replace the appropriate names of the individuals you're quoting, and use cut & paste. Example:

Sydlexia wrote:
blah blah blah


My Take.

Tebor wrote:
blah blah blah


My Take.

S. McCracken wrote:
blah blah blah


My Take.
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FNJ
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

it's a matter of having to copy paste the quotes into a reply box, which without a drop down fast reply box (which invision also has) means you would have to either open up notepad or hit hte back and forward buttons alot, plus code it. it's a lot nicer and easier to just scroll through posts, hitting the multiquote button, then when you press reply, it's all there for you.


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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 09:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JEW Wrote:
Quote:
IF YOU ARE A PEACH THEN I AM GOING TO EAT YOU!!!


And it's just that simple.


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2007 10:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
you would have to either open up notepad or hit hte back and forward buttons alot, plus code it.


Actually, when you hit reply, the "post a reply" screen has a little window at the bottom of the page which shows the last page of posts, so you can copy & paste from there.
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